no lifting?

I've searched through the old threads, and I see the thoughts on the importance of lifting vs. throwing.

My question is "has anyone here ever trained by just practicing throwing with no weight training for a length of time (say 2months or more)"?

And would please share how it went and what the results were? 

Thanks

-Bob

 

 

Several people do zero weight training during the season.  Vierra being the prime example.

YMMV.

Bruce Aitken told me he does power cleans.  Whether that is true or not is another question. 

buckcali wrote: I think Mr. Smith is on his way to zero weight training also

 

lol! 

Zero weight training?  No.

Zero practice? Absolutely.

 

Twice a week is optimal weight training, im telling y'all.

2x's a week +1

Greg Hadley wrote: So you put over 55lbs on your Front Squat in a year in a half (with plans for much more), being semi-retired, with an injured hip, lifting twice a week? Do I have that right?

Yes sir.  You have it 100% correct.

It's ok, no one else really believes it either.  Kara was a huge non-believer until she tried it as well.  I think people are scared to try a program like mine, and therefore never do. 

Roy Bogue wrote: steve748 wrote: I Have over the the last 15 years lifted with bruce a few times so thats a urban myth 8 reps at 286lb power clean is no slouch !! that weight for 8 is impressive but still begs the question, Why?

+1

 

C. Smith wrote: It's ok, no one else really believes it either.  Kara was a huge non-believer until she tried it as well.  I think people are scared to try a program like mine, and therefore never do.

 

I have to HONEST here Craig.  Is the "diet" the REAL Secret ....lol  Can you tell us the bodyweight gains as well on your reduced lifting training- PROGRAM  ?

Coach, you seem not to like strong people.  Your comment on the WOB, just get a huge clean and dead and throw it.  Like that is easy, and you can do that in a couple of weeks.  Some of us have toiled for decades to get stronger and more mass.  You seem to discount that as some easy task.  If it is so easy, why don't you have your son do it.  I know he is busy in a book, like we are not busy feeding our families and busting our hump 14 hours a day at a job.  Better yet, you do it and show us all.   

I have competed with C for quite a few years and have watched him work year after year on his power.  Now is he strong and is a one of the top throwers in the world and you want to discount that.  Why?

Silverback wrote: Coach, you seem not to like strong people.  Your comment on the WOB, just get a huge clean and dead and throw it.  Like that is easy, and you can do that in a couple of weeks.  Some of us have toiled for decades to get stronger and more mass.  You seem to discount that as some easy task.  If it is so easy, why don't you have your son do it.  I know he is busy in a book, like we are not busy feeding our families and busting our hump 14 hours a day at a job.  Better yet, you do it and show us all.    I have competed with C for quite a few years and have watched him work year after year on his power.  Now is he strong and is a one of the top throwers in the world and you want to discount that.  Why?

 

Myles you are CORRECT !!!  I like technique versus raw strength because its harder to get.  You can ALWAYS get stronger...!

 

Craig has been quite candid in his "Who cares " about performance enhancement.  Too each his own ? 

 Without stating the olbvious.  I would prefer the longer-slower  patient approach much like Sean Betz's path.

 

So I quess we will have to agree too dis-agree ?

I think that "looooooooool" you just typed counts as roid rage...

Craig,

Love what you have accomplished so far....and I really have to agree with "so becuase i don't care what someone else does".  We can only control ourselves and sometimes we cannot do that either.

As far as the gains are concerned...I am understanding your training.  I am starting to get a bit more rest between lifts and it is paying off.

Myles...you will like this one: I was squatting heavy and someone asked if I was worried about hurting myself with the weight.  I said, "Hell yes.  It is the thought of tearing muscle and tendons that makes me push so damn hard."

Good stuff Craig....Keep it up.

..don't like where this going

Jesus Christ are you fu(king kidding me Coach?

I have never taken a (performance enhancing)drug in my life and I am all for no drug testing in this sport. 

That is a plain stupid argument ...oh he is not for drug testing ,so he must be on drugs.  Coach you are becoming a broken record about the drug issue.  Here is a little known fact,,,,there are guys all over the world who throw far and have never been coached by you!  Guess what not all of them are on drugs either.