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Speer 
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Curious what/if you guys ingest anything leading up to a workout for a little boost/waker-upper? I sit at a desk most of the day, tack on the 45min drive home and some nights the energy is severely lacking.
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Duncan McCallum
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Posted: 8/15/12 at 5:14pm |
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^^ truth
I've had some of my best workouts taking a nap on the ride over to the gym (obv, I wasn't driving)..
I just drink a protein shake and have a couple nutri grain bars, or some nerds/some sort of dextrose mix.. if I'm really tapped I'll cruss 200-400mg caffeine in with the shake and that gets me going in about 10 mins... rarely do that though, I like having a low tolerance to caffeine so it works better, haha.
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Posted: 8/15/12 at 5:37pm |
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2 x 300mg caffeine pills 30 mins prior- helps get pep w /out a heart attack and actually helps defeat physical pain 20-30% - look it up!
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Posted: 8/15/12 at 6:48pm |
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Andy,
I usually take the following about 45 mins before a workout: 1 Ester-C 50 g's whey (I am usually way between meals at this point, so a little extra never hurt) 2 scoops Jack3d 3 wee scoops of ConCrete (I don't really like it, but I'm almost done with it) Then I start sipping on my syzurp...PM me and I'll tell you about it.
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Posted: 8/16/12 at 8:16am |
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Meth.
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Duncan McCallum
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Posted: 8/16/12 at 8:40am |
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Or that.
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Posted: 8/16/12 at 9:08am |
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Choline. They sell very expensive stuff called alpha GPC which is a fancy special version but regular choline is cheap and in the B vitamin section of any vitamin store.
When I trained after work I found it helped with a little extra snap on my movements but wouldn't affect sleep like caffeine at 5-6pm would have. Controlled experiments? no. But a number of times where I had surprisingly good workouts on the quick lifts after taking a couple choline caps. |
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Duncan McCallum
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Posted: 8/16/12 at 9:10am |
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I used to have some liquid choline midworkout...ever done that Ledfist? About to date myself here...tasted like Quik-Kik.
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never did liquid choline, just capsules.
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Used to eat a little, then 2 bc powders with a red bull and some violent music on the way.
Then the doctors stripped me Now a cup of coffee and some Neil Diamond. Crap. |
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Just to note, be careful what pre-workout stuff you take. Much of the stuff has dimethyl, which is on the WADA banned list. Make sure you read the label and talk to someone if you have any doubts. I think more companies are removing it, but I also believe some of the top stuff is keeping it.
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Posted: 8/16/12 at 2:40pm |
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Good tip Dan, thank you.
Sean, meth made all of mah teef faw out and gave me nasty skin. I'd prefer to stay natural then go the chemical route. I can have espresso before bed and still sleep. Maybe I drink too much coffee during the day? ha Was looking around the kitchen and my wife has this Isagenix citrusy A,B,C-vitamin electrolytes etc canister we gave a try months ago (tho I really never tried it). |
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 In all seriousness, Jack3d is great. The new Micro version doesn't have the DMAA goodness, but is just as potent from what I understand. Dan makes a good point, but if you're not going to be subject to a WADA level test, and VERY few of us will, why worry? |
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Posted: 8/16/12 at 8:56pm |
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I like to do 5 sets of 5 of box jumps on a small box to "wake up" the CNS so to speak.
I avoid most pre-workout supplements with stimulants. |
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Posted: 8/16/12 at 9:14pm |
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I have borderline high blood pressure so stimulants are a no go except for coffee.
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Posted: 8/17/12 at 9:07am |
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I think a good thing about avoiding heavy stimulants before training is the feedback you keep - if I am sluggish or off it's information about the state of my body and I should pay attention to that. Might mean too little sleep, nutritional deficiency, time for a backoff session, etc. I don't want to mask those signals with the raging power of megaStimSuperPUmp1000!!!
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Posted: 8/17/12 at 9:47am |
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Nothing.
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Anything for early morning training? I train in my basement, so I usually sneak down before my family wakes up. Caffeine sensitive, so I get some ugly jitters while squatting after taking it on an empty stomach. I've stuck with the Clif bars that have caffeine in them (peanut toffee buzz) with gatorade so far. I am not a fan of fasted training, but I have a wife, 3 kids and 2 jobs like most these days so any training time is a blessing.
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Posted: 8/17/12 at 2:11pm |
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I guess, for me, it's the principle of it. If it's banned, I shouldn't take it, regardless if I'll be tested for it or not.
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It's a stimulant, so it's only banned for competition. Even following the strictest interpretation of the WADA anti-doping code, it's OK to take it for training. But it might not be the best idea to use something before training that you can't or won't use before actual competition. |
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A glass (or two) of chocolate milk or some yogurt would be a good choice for a pre-workout boost--quick, good carb-protein ratio for pre- or post-workout as per the research we're seeing now. I know that one local university has switched from some relatively pricey stuff to simple low-fat chocolate milk.
For me, when both eating and training away from home, my breakfast of champions is an Egg McMuffin and a yogurt parfait (you can sub the parfait for the hash browns in the value meal). Pretty good nutritional set up with carbs and protein, but not so much protein as to make you sluggish.
JMHO.
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The above has roughly 500 calories and 89% of one's daily suggested intake (?) of cholesterol.
I'll pass.
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For most guys, a typical workout shake is about 450 calories. Also, men get a larger calorie budget for weight maintenance than women do. For example, my maintenance level of calories is about 2000-2200 per day, which is NOT easy to do without close tracking. By contrast, most of my trainer colleagues get 3000-4000 per day. So I work to get the biggest payoff for my calorie investment. My McD "breakfast of champions" provides a lot of nutrition and good energy for the amount of calories.
Teresa Merrick, Ph.D.
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I'm good with the calories, and chicken...well..I bar none. But as a short fat guy, I'm not taking any chances with my cholesterol.
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I hear ya, but I see it differently. It you wanted to go by that thinking, then you could justify off-season use of anything (steroids, testosterone, HGH, etc.) since you aren't competing during that time, but only training. |
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