sheaf toss critique

Hey folks, it's time to ask for some help. I saw someone do a spin for the sheaf toss and thought I would try it out, but I was hoping you could look at it and tell me what I should work on. the links are below.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-dMDYyidq8

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTEctiTVK9c

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8-fxhLhxHk

  well, what do you guys think?

You are pulling the bag back, not up.  Watch your right shoulder...see how it shrugs up to your right ear?

well, the first video was about the same height as my standing throw, about 14 or 15 feet.

well I've used the standing form in competition before, and I've been practicing it since January. maybe if I put on a video of the standing you could tell me what I should work on before advancing to the spin?

I'm no sheaf gawd but we can take some time at the claw and see
what we can iron out. Echoing what Craig said...fundamentals.

No worries Bro. We start with the sheaf so I'll be in that gear anyway.
Truly, I think you should skip the spin this weekend. I say this
because after watching the vids again...none of your throws were the
same.

In a big game consistency counts. Be the steady hand.g

I don't know where you are in your season in regards to training but hang or ballistic snatches in the gym will help your fundamentals with the standing technique. Make sure your core is strong so you can transfer the power from your legs into the sheaf. If you think your core is already strong, do a little more work just to be sure

Use your legs.

Dan McKim breaking 35'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNuQl7Wzzwk


Watch the back swing and knee bend action.

Little more back swing then push down with your left and
pull with the right to accelerate your downswing. At the
bottom of the arc or checkmark you change direction and
drive up with the legs continue to push/pull with your arms
and violently snap the bag off.

AlDargie, can you show me a video of what you mean? I'm having trouble visualizing what you're saying.

JSiau10 wrote: I'll work on that. anything else?

One thing at a time. Get accustomed to using your legs first until it's second nature, then move on to other things.

Practice with uprights and crossbar.  Seriously.  If you throw it fifty feet in the air, but can't get it between the uprights, it don't mean a thing. One vital thing you'll figure out by setting up some sort of standards, is where to stand, and how to angle your stance in regards to the bar. That sounds silly, but man oh man, KNOWING that every throw should go right smack through the middle relieves your mind from worrying about it, and you can focus on UP.

Something I do that helps...well, helps me:

I throw in a smaller area...like a parking space.  Maybe 8-9 feet across.  I start at the far end and try to toss the bag so it lands inside that spot.  I have a line drawn about 3 feet into the parking spot as my "crossbar," and get a buddy to tell me where the bag peaks in relation to that line.

I totally stole this from Mike Baab, by the way.

I figure if I can consistently throw the bag UP instead of HARD and make it through a smaller "window," I'm good to go when I have to throw in a larger space.

finally got it uploaded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUAI0a8nRas