sheaf toss critique
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Topic: sheaf toss critique
Posted By: JSiau10
Subject: sheaf toss critique
Date Posted: 7/24/11 at 9:59am
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Hey folks, it's time to ask for some help. I saw someone do a spin for the sheaf toss and thought I would try it out, but I was hoping you could look at it and tell me what I should work on. the links are below. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-dMDYyidq8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-dMDYyidq8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTEctiTVK9c - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTEctiTVK9c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8-fxhLhxHk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8-fxhLhxHk well, what do you guys think? ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
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Posted By: Rakeatthegates
Date Posted: 7/24/11 at 3:18pm
| The Burchett's have started swinging the sheaf at the bar so it is no longer a full turn.i have a video I will ask permission to post it on youtube. |
Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Date Posted: 7/25/11 at 1:30am
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You are pulling the bag back, not up. Watch your right shoulder...see how it shrugs up to your right ear? ------------- The man in the arena. |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 7/25/11 at 1:38am
I think it's best to have the fundamentals of a standing sheaf toss down before attempting to spin. Which one currently goes higher for you? ------------- |
JSiau10 wrote:Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 7/25/11 at 4:37am
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well, the first video was about the same height as my standing throw, about 14 or 15 feet. ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 7/25/11 at 4:52am
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My suggestion would be to actually throw over a bar, as accuracy will also come into play when deciding what technique to use. As stated before though, I think it's best to have the fundamentals of a standing sheaf toss down before attempting to spin. ------------- |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 7/25/11 at 5:12am
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well I've used the standing form in competition before, and I've been practicing it since January. maybe if I put on a video of the standing you could tell me what I should work on before advancing to the spin? ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 7/25/11 at 5:27am
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Sure. There are several other threads with sheaf critique, as well.
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Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Date Posted: 7/25/11 at 11:23am
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I'm no sheaf gawd but we can take some time at the claw and see
what we can iron out. Echoing what Craig said...fundamentals. ------------- The man in the arena. |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 7/25/11 at 12:56pm
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Alright, thanks Duncan. I'll be the kid in B class who looks like he doesn't belong there. ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Date Posted: 7/25/11 at 1:02pm
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No worries Bro. We start with the sheaf so I'll be in that gear anyway.
Truly, I think you should skip the spin this weekend. I say this because after watching the vids again...none of your throws were the same. In a big game consistency counts. Be the steady hand.g  ------------- The man in the arena. |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 7/25/11 at 2:47pm
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Oh no, I don't dare try it in competition yet. I'm still not sure about it in practice. ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: RCrazyWolf4
Date Posted: 7/26/11 at 6:59am
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I don't know where you are in your season in regards to training but hang or ballistic snatches in the gym will help your fundamentals with the standing technique. Make sure your core is strong so you can transfer the power from your legs into the sheaf. If you think your core is already strong, do a little more work just to be sure
------------- I've come to free you from your complicated lives! Free you from the complicated part I mean, not the lives part. |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 7/26/11 at 9:54am
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alright, here's my regular standing sheaf toss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5fcC2c7nHY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5fcC2c7nHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdNouooclzY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdNouooclzY so what should I do? ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: RCrazyWolf4
Date Posted: 7/26/11 at 1:12pm
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Use your legs.
------------- I've come to free you from your complicated lives! Free you from the complicated part I mean, not the lives part. |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 7/26/11 at 2:04pm
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I'll work on that. anything else?
------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: mthompson33
Date Posted: 7/26/11 at 4:03pm
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Dan McKim breaking 35' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNuQl7Wzzwk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNuQl7Wzzwk Watch the back swing and knee bend action. ------------- Matt Thompson "If you wake up and you're not in pain, you know you're dead." -- Russian Proverb |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 7/26/11 at 4:59pm
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Hmm. I'll work on that. ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: AlDargie
Date Posted: 7/26/11 at 10:20pm
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Little more back swing then push down with your left and
pull with the right to accelerate your downswing. At the bottom of the arc or checkmark you change direction and drive up with the legs continue to push/pull with your arms and violently snap the bag off. ------------- Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy. - Outlaw Josey Wales |
Posted By: vonguinness
Date Posted: 7/27/11 at 12:07am
+1 drill it and put the time in. ------------- jammin on the one. |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 7/27/11 at 4:54am
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AlDargie, can you show me a video of what you mean? I'm having trouble visualizing what you're saying. ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 7/27/11 at 6:35am
search_form.asp?FID=0" target="_self" class="nav"> Search ^^. There are tons of topics where a lot of what you seek has has already been covered. http://nasgaweb.com/forums/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11448&KW - http://nasgaweb.com/forums/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11448&a mp;KW http://nasgaweb.com/forums/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12592&KW - http://nasgaweb.com/forums/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12592&a mp;KW etc, etc... ------------- |
Posted By: RCrazyWolf4
Date Posted: 7/27/11 at 8:45am
One thing at a time. Get accustomed to using your legs first until it's second nature, then move on to other things. ------------- I've come to free you from your complicated lives! Free you from the complicated part I mean, not the lives part. |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 7/27/11 at 4:21pm
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that's some good advice, i'll work on that. ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 8/18/11 at 9:10am
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Practice with uprights and crossbar. Seriously. If you throw it fifty feet in the air, but can't get it between the uprights, it don't mean a thing. One vital thing you'll figure out by setting up some sort of standards, is where to stand, and how to angle your stance in regards to the bar. That sounds silly, but man oh man, KNOWING that every throw should go right smack through the middle relieves your mind from worrying about it, and you can focus on UP. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 8/18/11 at 3:03pm
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I have been now. thanks for all the advice
------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Date Posted: 8/19/11 at 12:13pm
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Something I do that helps...well, helps me: I throw in a smaller area...like a parking space. Maybe 8-9 feet across. I start at the far end and try to toss the bag so it lands inside that spot. I have a line drawn about 3 feet into the parking spot as my "crossbar," and get a buddy to tell me where the bag peaks in relation to that line. I totally stole this from Mike Baab, by the way. I figure if I can consistently throw the bag UP instead of HARD and make it through a smaller "window," I'm good to go when I have to throw in a larger space. ------------- The man in the arena. |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 8/19/11 at 12:18pm
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that sounds like a pretty good idea. I've pretty much found the spot where I throw. I've found it peaks to paces behind, two paces two my left. I practice at a park with a really high baseball back-wall. I climb up and put a colorful tie up, and aim for that. ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: Rakeatthegates
Date Posted: 8/21/11 at 7:28am
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finally got it uploaded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUAI0a8nRas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUAI0a8nRas |
Posted By: Tim Pinkerton
Date Posted: 8/24/11 at 7:03am
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+1 on this. It works. ------------- "Big ain't Strong...Strong is Strong." Visit our training page at: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Get-U-Fit-Training-Systems/119414814828174 - http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Get-U-Fit-Training-Systems/ 119414814828174 |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 9/07/11 at 6:15pm
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wow. that really shoots out of there. ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |