Cleans

Whats the difference between cleans and power cleans?  Which should I be doing?  I apoligize in advance if this has been discussed before.  Thanks!

IMO throwers should do power cleans, but really the catch is insignificant if you are just worried about carryover to your throws. I even would say high pulls would suffice. Save the wrists.

I mostly agree about the relative unimportance of the catch and therefore the total acceptability of High Pulls, but I personally find performing Cleans with a catch results in a better, crisper movement IF you can do them without any wrist issues.  I would also note that for those without an actual wrist "issue", most of the time wrist pain/problems result from trying to catch a clean you have not pulled high enough.  If that is the case, the solution is to reduce the weight slightly, not necessarily resort to just doing High Pulls (again, not that there is anything wrong with that).  

Edited by Pingleton - 10/24/12 at 12:06pm

Srokus wrote: IMO throwers should do power cleans, but really the catch is insignificant if you are just worried about carryover to your throws. I even would say high pulls would suffice. Save the wrists.

No chance in jamming your wrist..

There shouldn't be much (if any) wrist pain in a power clean if you are racking the bar correctly. If you're racking it incorrectly, well, your bad. The benefit of a power clean v. a high pull is that you will commit to the explosiveness needed to rack the weight. Explosiveness is beneficial to throwing...yes?

Juli!

Whoa. Did I "knock what's working for others?" I explained my position. If it works for some doing it inefficiently, fine. Go ahead. Dropping in a wide, straight legged stance prevents you from finishing the pull. I don't recall how that's coming after you, or anyone, directly? I apologize if I'm missing something. 

...........................I have no words.

OH NO HE DIDN'T!!!!!!

C. Smith wrote: Barbell Jumping Jacks?!?

C. Smith wrote: Yup. I call 'em cleanjacks when I see people on this board (and elsewhere) doing that, lol.

TheJeff696 wrote: So that's what Jake looks like when he does cleans

jp - totally cool - I hesitated to say anything 'cause there are many paths to the top of the mountain. I was taught this by Dana LeDuc - 12 years at UT and 20 in the NFL . He said " I don't have  time to teach a 100 fball players how to do em right - let's  get to work and get strong ".

This summer me and 5 sixteen year olds did these and incline and sqt and arms and core 3x's a week . And they are all starters this year with big traps. Seemed to work.



 

agreed that we all should do perfect oly style lifts , BUT I have never ever been able to do  the front sqt catch - it actually terrifies me to try it w even 135 - must be the creaky knees - but i couldn't do it at 20 either.

Plus , - from the fball side - that "unsightly " technique sure looks like a player planting and spreading feet to gain lower leverage and 6 inch punch someone and the arms reverse curl is exactly how you should have tight hands and  elbows and  win the "who's hands are inside battle"

Sean - I think what you accomplish w this is the high rep short burst action  of fighting to block someone or NOT get blocked by someone. NOT being a better  lifter fo sho.
And you're making me blush.

Unsightly and functional imo.
Yes = Peter - sometimes it's just that - how much weight can I yank, curl and hip pop to the chin.

I love cleans(jacks : )  - only reason I commented.
Gonna do em this afternoon - gonna be  unsightly ........and  fun!

P- ok , this guys(in video) legs are wider and straighter than I like - I teach a tighter more sitting back 1/4 position and he needs to keep shoulder back.
Fball is played in a 1/4 sqt and  is about fast feet being put on the ground just in time to create a power position to bust someones chops JUST before they bust yours.
All I really care about is  that they pop hips , keep back arched and take the power of the hips into the arms - just as they would take the hip drive power into a tight lifting chest punch.