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TheJeff696 
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 Posted: 10/25/12 at 12:23pm |
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Am I incorrect in believing that you have earned the title of "crossfit extraordinaire"? Lolololololol
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Jeff Kaste
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jsully
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 12:27pm |
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GD CRAIG!!!!!!
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jsully
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 12:29pm |
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you know what they say.. a man can build a thousand bridges but suck one....
well... a couple of 500m rows earned me the title
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C. Smith
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 12:36pm |
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hahahahaha, this board is my playground.
Surely you aren't attributing their success to a particular exercise when you took 5 teenagers, made them stronger, and shockingly they got better? Please say that wasn't the point of that sentence. |
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Pingleton
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 12:46pm |
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I bet he also taught them a bit about actually playing football, and I am assuming the tutelage of a former long-time NFL starter probably helped these high school players a bit relative to their competition?
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M-BAAB
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 1:17pm |
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Smiff - of course not - you know me better than that. Stop smirking
 And you of anyone should remember that stronger equals better in tossing( w same level of technique) BUT not in fball. Think how many BIG STRONG GUYs you ran circles around on the field. I think the political season has us all "fact checking" simple comments that mean little more than 3 seconds of typing . I can understand why people lurk on forums - open your mouth CASUALLY and have to rush and defend something that lacks any real importance. And yes - what Peter said - lifting (how ever you like to do it) is only a part of the whole. I don't teach lifting - I teach fball. I could have made you an animal Smiff. And this goofy lift -aren't they called Hungarian Hi pulls? Done better than the cfit guy of course. Disclaimer! Everything I ever say is just fun w a smile on my face and love in my heart. |
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CHAD
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 1:29pm |
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Chemerkin cleaned that way for a number of reasons.
And almost every one of those reasons is delicious.
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...Josh
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C. Smith
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 1:29pm |
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In another time my friend, we could have done it big! |
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 1:29pm |
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This is something I am working on this off season. The major goal for the off season is to work on technique and flexibility so that I will be able to produce Craig Smith approved lifts. Especially cleans. I built a platform and got bumpers just for this reason. Check the ego, drop the weight and do it right.
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C. Smith
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 1:31pm |
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That Craig Smith guy is old crabby washed-up has been. Don't worry about what he thinks.
I would love to be able to do a proper clean, but something about old dogs and new tricks I think. |
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Pingleton
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 1:32pm |
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Not quite the same thing, but yes. However, the "done better" aspect is rather significant  :The Hungarian version is typically caught on the final rep, but whatever. See below, specifically starting at 2:13 (and Mike, check out the Clean Pulls performed on a Universal Machine Bench Press at 1:23): |
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TheJeff696
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 1:41pm |
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Craig, you are a sneaky, funny man.
I presume you know what I am talking about love this site.
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Jeff Kaste
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M-BAAB
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 4:18pm |
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OK!
Went off to see how to fix this lift to make it more thrower friendly/functional. Widend hands for Peter , kept legs in position w no spread for Sean . Loved 'em! bar x 5 135 x 5 225 x 5 x 5 sets in 12 minutes. Could have gone heavier but checked the ego for Stonethrower and tried to do it right. Hit chin everytime - felt fast(got a game in a week and a half) and functional. Smiff - LOOK! old dawg learning new tricks! Woof! |
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M-BAAB
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Posted: 10/25/12 at 4:20pm |
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jsully- how fast did you do the 500 meter row ? I did 1 minute and 33 seconds last week and almost barfed.
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Posted: 10/26/12 at 7:36am |
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I have love in my heart? I have heard that before someplace
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chirolifter
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Posted: 10/26/12 at 4:14pm |
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Oh shit Baab used CAPS.....
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M-BAAB
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Posted: 10/26/12 at 4:42pm |
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HAW HAW!
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Mike, in season f ball for the son- 15 soon. Hi pull, power clean, Hang pull/ clean pull shrug ? He loves to power clean with a very hi catch little jump to the side. I limit him to 150 for 3, 3-5 sets. His tech is very good. Wondering now if he's beating him self up play a half freshman and getting some reps at DT with JV. The alt week he goes trap bar pull shrugs no higher than 225 for 3, 3-5 sets. We keep the box squat very high, want some flexion in the torso and legs.
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jsully
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Posted: 10/26/12 at 5:56pm |
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1:30.4 is my "PR", thought I haven't done it in a long time. I suspect I would die at 1:35 now, haha..
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M-BAAB
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Posted: 10/27/12 at 10:50am |
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Don - I have em do in season ( most high schools around here do 2 x 12 -15 circuits during season.)
1. An explosive leg - jumpsqts bar maybe 40% of max to 1/4 sqt - 4 sets of 5 usually - or hvy dumbell lunges dynamic or hvy dumbell j squats(do all these on a pad- save knees.) 2. An explosive all body - usually reps of 3- 5 on some type of power hi pull or hvy dumbell cleans(I like a swinging variant - mimics hip power exploding up thru hard lifting hands.) 3. An explosive upper body - I love my "Lineman push ups" - elbows in tight explosive perfect push ups - usually 2 x12) - or pushpress , plate press etc 4. A muscle building pull - pull ups or hang rows(love hang rows - fball guys need to be strong in the push out and pull back way) 3 x 8-12 5. bi /tri - big arms make good fball players - couple sets. 6. Lower core stuff like leg raises , leg scissors . And rotational = oblique rolls , russian plate twists. Couple sets each - hard , fast - go home 45 minutes tops. They do this once a week w me and twice a week circuits w coaches - they will tell you if they are gassed - ASK! just cut everything in half if they look poopy. If they are hurt - adapt and regress.
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Posted: 10/27/12 at 4:26pm |
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Thanks Mike! Will add the arm blast - still have my dave draper arm blaster. With you on the vertical / horizontal rows he does em on the pull day. He hits the core and the athletic based push ups at practice. Like the DB cleans will incorporate on pull back day. Leg squat day we'll add some explosive jumping like the Db jumps. DT-He's learning the art of get off the block. Skinny bastard box squated 315x3. Think that's why he's getting off the block!
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Posted: 10/27/12 at 8:28pm |
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Clean info...
Had a chance to talk with JV a few times before he died, he was a really nice guy and very smart about the lifts. |
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BrianKing
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Posted: 10/30/12 at 8:44am |
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I believe if you are teaching good technique on the practice field (i.e. good stance, hands on the numbers, head up, etc.), then proper lifting technique should be taught in the weight room. You dont play the game, nor do you throw with your feet kicked out super wide like the cross-s**t douche is doing in the cleanjack..
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