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Topic: Who should throw as a Master?
Posted By: Rob Schultz
Subject: Who should throw as a Master?
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 12:53am

This topic has me confused???

To me a master is a thrower that is a very good thrower but just is older.

Should a guy that is 40 to 55 that throws the LWFD 30 feet or the stone 25 feet compete as a master?

Or is it a age thing only???



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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 1:20am

It's age only.  You've made it far enough in life that you deserve to not throw the 56, should you choose to do so. 

It should really be called the Senior class

I bet Myles has some thoughts on this.



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Posted By: Rob Schultz
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 1:28am
I know myles has thoughts on this. When we talk on the phone and this topic is brought up I change the subject real quick.

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Posted By: CaberKing
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 1:50am
Senior class? Craig - that hurts.

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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 2:04am

Originally posted by CaberKing CaberKing wrote:

Senior class? Craig - that hurts.

 

I kid, I kid 



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Posted By: Sleeping Dragon
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 4:10am
Originally posted by C. Smith C. Smith wrote:

You've made it far enough in life that you deserve to not throw the 56, should you choose to do so. 

People wondered why I was smiling when I turned 40.



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Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 4:35am
I think you should always throw in the highest class you can.  For you to turn 40 and jump in the masters when your clearly an open thrower is junk.  I would throw pro if I was good enough.  Now if you have had an injury or your not a good open thrower because of what ever then masters is ok.  But when you were in the top 10 throwers in the am class(Rob) you don't need to be throwing masters.  A super game like the worlds or Loon is an exception.  I think we should always be looking to move up in competition.  It is just my opinion and it is worth what you just paid for it. 

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Posted By: chirolifter
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 4:43am

I agree with Myles.  Thats why I am trying to get back to more pro games ( I dont feel im good enough to throw with these guys either- but are we ever good enough??).

However it was the thought of throwing the 42 that got me BACK into the games.  After a 6 yr. lay off to do ultra endurance competitions I found my self at 200#, 40 and not a fast twitch fiber left in my body..  Then I decided I wanted to get back into the games...  My first season back i was 240 and the 42 was kickin my arse.... 

Now I am hitting my stride and ready for more pro games...

Dont know how many years I got left, but im going keep on gettin after it as long as I can...



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Posted By: KTDupuis
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 5:17am

Rob, you know my take on this...

Look at the game you are going to, and based on who will be there, pick the division that makes the most sense. You are not looking for a cake walk or an easy win. Pick the division that makes sense.

I will compete in whatever division allows me to prolong my life as a thrower. When I turn 40 (3 years from now) I will see what the body is telling me. Those of us who have no desire (or skill) to go pro, only want to prolong the amount of time we get to play.

By the time I am 40 I will have 12 years of highland games on me. That is a lot of Advil, a few MRIs, probably a couple more cortisone shots, 9,000 rolls of tape...and a metric ton of Capsasin/Biofreeze.

If the 42 will buy me an extra decade inside the trig with a weight, instead of outside the trig with a clipboard, well...I will use the 42 without hesitation when the time comes.

...but if I am still throwing at an A level, and the 56 isn't killing me, I am not going to avoid it either.

 



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Posted By: FlyinFree
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 5:20am
Originally posted by chirolifter chirolifter wrote:

 6 yr. lay off to do ultra endurance competitions I found my self at 200#, 40 and not a fast twitch fiber left in my body.. 

Now I am hitting my stride and ready for more pro games...

COOOOOOOOOOOLL!!!  I needed to read that! I can do this!

thanks for posting



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Posted By: Kilted Canuck
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 5:45am
I don't like the name Seniors class .. in Scotland I saw it referred to as the "Super Adults" now that sounds much better...  Also turning just 40 you may still be able to hang with the younger crowd but up at 60 and 70 your body totally changes and my hats go off to men and women at at age 60+, toss cabers, and still throw heavy stuff and kick butt in general.  95% of the time I throw with women that are 1/2 my age and Elite athletes with is totally cool they really push me to throw well, but so do the high level of Master Women throwers I compete with. And for now we still throw the same weights as I do in an open competition... they have just started for women over 50+ to have lighter weight for WOB and HWFD.    Besides many of the top male and female Masters are top in the field no matter what division they throw in!!  Also as we all get older... our bodies after 50+ may thank us for throwing the #42 WOB even though strong bodies like Mlyes & Dirk, as such make the #56WOB & all the events look so easy (super good)
So the question why throw as a Master... "why not!" besides we have cookies and better meds to share - Karyn


Posted By: Soul Eater
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 5:54am
I went into the Masters class because my good friend asked me to help him
grow the class, that simple. The 40 class became a very strong class in nor-
cal and because of it's strength it took the B class spot at Pleasanton.

Now I will address that remark Mr.Smith made about us changing the
masters name to Senoir's, did that just come to you or did you spend allot of
time working on that. Most likely you were filling your diaper's up when I
started to lift funny boy. Ha Ha just kidding, stinky potty poopy panties.


Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 5:56am
Originally posted by FlyinFree FlyinFree wrote:

Originally posted by chirolifter chirolifter wrote:

 6 yr. lay off to do ultra endurance competitions I found my self at 200#, 40 and not a fast twitch fiber left in my body.. 

Now I am hitting my stride and ready for more pro games...

COOOOOOOOOOOLL!!!  I needed to read that! I can do this!

thanks for posting

You do realize that Gene is right around 300lbs now, with traps touching his ears, right?



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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 5:58am

Originally posted by Soul Eater Soul Eater wrote:


Now I will address that remark Mr.Smith made about us changing the
masters name to Senoir's, did that just come to you or did you spend allot of
time working on that. Most likely you were filling your diaper's up when I
started to lift funny boy. Ha Ha just kidding, stinky potty poopy panties.

Boy you Seniors sure are crotchety...

 

 

 

   



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Posted By: Mike Wills
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 6:17am
I was just thinking that about Gene...He is about 6'3" and 300 lbs.  I met him when he was just stopping the endurance stuff, and now I refer to him as "The man who ate Gene Flynn"!!!


Posted By: Soul Eater
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 7:08am
Craig do you like stepping in dog 5h!t [LOL]


Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 7:09am


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Posted By: chirolifter
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 7:09am

Putting on the size and strength AGAIN was the hardest thing I ever did.  Harder than non stop racing for 300 miles across Ireland- unsupported!!!

I went through tremendous pain in the joints and it took about 2 years to STOP running (which i loved to do)...  It took a total of about 6 yrs. to get to my current size and strength...  

Well, maybe the hardest thing was saying goodbye to my abs...



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Posted By: Soul Eater
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 7:21am
Dude you said Via con dios to your abs. Have you ever heard of a dickdo?
It's when your stomach hangs out further than your dickdo. Ha ha just
funnin with you brother welcome to the crotchety seniors.


Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 8:01am
Karyn, Gene, Kel, Kevin are all right.  I was talking about guys cherry picking in some of the little games.  My body is telling me to throw masters and I might not have a choice but to listen if I can come back at all.  If you go to Pleasinton and win the masters then you have done something.  How one person feels and his injury history is different from the next.  A person just competing is great.  And I know Craig has nothing but respect, so don't let him fool you in any way. 

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Posted By: Rob Schultz
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 8:17am

Originally posted by Silverback Silverback wrote:

It is just my opinion and it is worth what you just paid for it. 

Not true. Myles your opinion means a lot to me.



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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 8:19am

Originally posted by Silverback Silverback wrote:

And I know Craig has nothing but respect, so don't let him fool you in any way. 



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Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 8:36am
rob- Hell , Myles and I started this at 42. I threw open till my body MADE me lose the 40 or 50 lbs that you NEED to compete as an open. The plain fact of pain levels and longevity will/did win. Masters is not a testoterone dripping wired up deal like so many open games where friendliness comes 2nd. We are a bunch of survivors or late bloomers STILL fighting to stay in the game. I throw lots of masters games here in Tx and win most everything easily (not being a dick). I do this 'cause these are my buddies man. Who gives a shit who threw farthest? throw where you get the most jollies  - fighting kids or laffing w. buddies while STILL throwing your best. AND reason # 1 = throwing the 42 is just sweeeet. Have fun.   

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Posted By: brandell
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 8:43am
Originally posted by M-BAAB M-BAAB wrote:

rob- Hell , Myles and I started this at 42. I threw open till my body MADE me lose the 40 or 50 lbs that you NEED to compete as an open. The plain fact of pain levels and longevity will/did win. Masters is not a testoterone dripping wired up deal like so many open games where friendliness comes 2nd. We are a bunch of survivors or late bloomers STILL fighting to stay in the game. I throw lots of masters games here in Tx and win most everything easily (not being a dick). I do this 'cause these are my buddies man. Who gives a shit who threw farthest? throw where you get the most jollies  - fighting kids or laffing w. buddies while STILL throwing your best. AND reason # 1 = throwing the 42 is just sweeeet. Have fun.   





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Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 8:45am
Mike is all wrong.  He means I was 30 when we started.  When I turn 40 I might throw masters also.  Now that I am in my late, late and later 30's I see the light. 

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Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 8:52am
Damn! I forgot that The Plowmule is living backwards like Merlin. See , if Myles or Gene or Ed or Don or Petur or a whole list  of old farts are up to tossing open - I'll jump in too. Throw with your old or new pals whatever the hell they're throwing.And did I mention that the 42 is sweeeet?!

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Posted By: CaberKing
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 9:12am

Originally posted by M-BAAB M-BAAB wrote:

rob- Hell , Myles and I started this at 42. I threw open till my body MADE me lose the 40 or 50 lbs that you NEED to compete as an open. The plain fact of pain levels and longevity will/did win. Masters is not a testoterone dripping wired up deal like so many open games where friendliness comes 2nd. We are a bunch of survivors or late bloomers STILL fighting to stay in the game. I throw lots of masters games here in Tx and win most everything easily (not being a dick). I do this 'cause these are my buddies man. Who gives a shit who threw farthest? throw where you get the most jollies  - fighting kids or laffing w. buddies while STILL throwing your best. AND reason # 1 = throwing the 42 is just sweeeet. Have fun.   

I too started at 42 - and after a car accident at 35 that left me with a serious back injury. For the first year and a half I threw the 56 with the young boys. I was ready for the 42! Unfortunately it looks like arthritis in my back may have sealed my fate - but I will keep on trying for as long as I can, and appreciating the great group of men that also love this sport - especially Craig. (When the pro's take the field, my kids shout the loudest for Craig - or was it Kerry, can't remember).



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Posted By: Soul Eater
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 10:19am
Whoa! Mike, should we get you some mayonnaise to batter up your head
with, so you can slip through door ways more easily.(not being a dick) I
thought the header for this thread was kind of like, for a lack of a better
word... dumb, sorry. But it ended up as being a fun thread. Masters are
totally age based unless you have never thrown and you should start as a
novice until your Caber skills are developed. Pro's 40 + don't have to wait if
the want to go down a class they can throw Masters without sitting out a
year or 2. I really think we get very good throwers in these classes, the
comp at the big games is just as fun to watch as the Pro's or A's. We have
huge championships where everyone over 40 is welcome, none of the other
championships are like that. I think there is more camaraderie because of
the shear number of us at games.


Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 11:16am
I throw Masters 'cause I's skeered o' that big ole 56 weight.


Posted By: clwoods
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 11:28am
Being new to the sport I may have a little different take on the situation.. Throw in whatever division you want, or can!

Like Mike says, If throwing against guy's half your age and twice as strong is your thing...go for it! But from my perspective throwing with the advil and geritol crowd is a blast! We have a lot more fun on the Masters side of the field. Maybe we just do things a little differently here in Texas.

I threw in my 2nd games with Baab and he's right. It was the Mike Baab show and the rest of us were just spectators. But it didn't matter, we were all there to have fun and we did. Despite the torrential downpour


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Posted By: Shawn Baker
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 11:58am
Interesting topic-- as I finish my first full season having done reasonably well  as a Master about to turn 43- I am looking forward to doing some throwing in the A class as well next season (probably throw A's one day and then Master the next if allowed)-I have to say that I agree that if your over 40 you certainly deserve to throw with other 40 year olds if you want to- I also certainly can see the attraction of throwing with the younger guys- I don't mind the 56 at this point and usually will warm up with it during Masters comps- there are some interesting studies about aging that have recently been published which show that well trained athletes are increasingly performing at high levels despite advancing age- (we certainly have some great example of this in our sport right now-e.g Don Stewart, Baab, Flynn, Vierra , Chafin, K Smith  etc.,.)- In the end I thinks it's largely about competing with yourself


Posted By: ken crum
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 12:18pm

When I turned 40 I looked forward to the Masters division for the simple fact of throwing the 42 and the 16 pound hammer at most comp's.

It also was apparent that when I was closing in on the 40 year mark I just wasnt keeping up with the talent in the A class, my places and marks just were not up where they use to be.

 Showing up and throwing in the A's ending up 5th,6th or 7th... I felt like I was just clogging up the field and not being competitive anymore. Plus my leaving the A class potentially opened up a spot for a new face in the throwing field.

 



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Posted By: Steve Conway
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 12:36pm
At least on the West Coast; we started the 40-49 class (we already had a 50+ class) because there wasn't any place for some Pro's and A's to continue throwing after turning 40 and feeling that they weren't competitive enough to continue in their respective classes. Prior to that you had to either stop throwing or wait until you turned 50. The Pro's could sit out for 2 yr.s and come back as A's, very few did... In answer to the question "who should throw as a Master?"; anyone over the age of 40 if that's what they want to do.


Posted By: WALLY.OLECIK
Date Posted: 10/21/09 at 8:33pm
The question of "who should throw as a Master?" is not much different than "who should throw as a 190 and under?"  l believe that if the shoe fits, you're allowed to wear it!!!!

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Posted By: AncientOne
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 12:27am

Hey-

I've posted some photos of the Masters 2003 on a FaceBook page at http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=796445440&ref=profile#/pages/Scottish-Masters-Athletics-International-LLC/145102534842?ref=sgm - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=796445440&ref=pro file#/pages/Scottish-Masters-Athletics-International-LLC/145 102534842?ref=sgm

Craig Smith and the Team USA guys were judges while Don S and Mike B were throwing first time together... and I think Gene volunteered to judge that year as well. 

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Posted By: Rob Schultz
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 4:39am

I have been doing a lot of thinking about the masters class and I am debating if I should not throw in it and just throw in the A-class only.

My thoughts are this... Should athletes competing in the MWC be the best throwers for each age group period. Or should it be for the guys who have throw in this class all year long???

 

 



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Posted By: chirolifter
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 5:43am
Either group I throw in, I still cant move too good till thursday!!!  Damn its hard to recover!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 6:08am
Originally posted by Rob Schultz Rob Schultz wrote:

I have been doing a lot of thinking about the masters class and I am debating if I should not throw in it and just throw in the A-class only.

My thoughts are this... Should athletes competing in the MWC be the best throwers for each age group period. Or should it be for the guys who have throw in this class all year long??



Ii haven't been to a MWC but seeing as anybody who's 50-59 years old or over can throw in the 50-59's at any local Games, I don't see why they can't throw at the MWC.  Now, there IS a rule (I think), which is really only applicable to the 40-49's, which says that you have to throw in the class a certain number of times during the year to qualify.  So IMHO, if Ryan Viera throws "Pro" at eight or nine Games during the year, and then throws in the 40's for 3-4 Games and doesn't get paid for those Games, then sure, why not?  He fulfilled the rule, and threw in the class the required number of times during the year.  He should be able to throw at the MWC's.

Regarding the whole issue of "should pro's  or even ex-pro's get to throw in the Masters"? Here are my thoughts, for the 2 cents they're worth.

I don't go out there to beat other guys....well, except for Steve Elliot!!   That's dumb, at this point. I go out there to beat MYSELF...to improve,  to do my best, and to challenge myself. I also go out there because it's fun and I like hanging out with  good looking old farts like me and watch the hot chicks ogle us.   So if some guy who's a pro but happens to be 50 years old (or 40, if I was in the 40's) wants to come out and throw in my class and I don't have a snowballs chance in hell of beating him, well....so what? Maybe I'll learn something from the guy, and be a better thrower for the experience.  I could care less if I'm "throwing for second place".


Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 6:12am
That's not quite correct:  you just need to throw in several games in the preceding year (which is an oft-forgiven rule).  Think of it this way:  you're eligible to go to MWC as soon as you're 40, so for some people it could be their first masters games.  Also, there is no requirement that a master ever throw unpaid to be eligible.


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Posted By: Soul Eater
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 6:32am
From what I know of the MWC it's more about the experience as a whole
than just the top individuals who place. Until you give travel money to the
top 10 you never know who will show until the posted deadline. Don't limit
this group to the top throwers. I haven't supported the MWC in years, but
that doesn't mean I don't believe in what they are doing and or the amount
of effort that they pour into it. Master's are not only very competitive but
very social.


Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 7:05am
MWC is a great experience.  This year was awesome,met some great new people and had a fabulous time. I hope to do more in the upcoming years.

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Posted By: 17/20
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 7:11am
We do know how to party, but we go to bed very early. Baab/ Stewart Loon 09' did adhere to the 9 pm bed check rule. MWC/Loon-all 40 plus guys are pretty fortunate to have the oppurtunity. Loon more performance based, MWC open to all but as competive within those five year blocks.  I've been very lucky to attend both, having had success at both, but more than that meeting some class people at both.

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Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 7:18am
rob - the MWC is about seeing the same guys for years at different places. Each class usually has 3-5 seriously competitive people and 5-7 more there for the fun or PR's . The 40-44 class is usually the most competitive top to bottom - participation begins to dwindle down as the 5 year groups move up the age ladder. But you can have death battles in any class. Come for the fun - it took me 4 years to get Myles back in the MWC after 2003 and of course - He beats me in 2007! But I'll get his butt back someday 'cause see.....we've got literally the rest of our lives to compete against each other 'till injuries win. Show up next year in Colorado and I guarandamntee you that you'll be in a fight as good as any open game.


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Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 7:20am
Oh.....and Kel....I'll see you at Ptown next year 50+ class.............being a dick

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Posted By: Soul Eater
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 8:17am
I'm not going to be around someone's getting married, nice try though, how
did you think you got a spot something had to open up, it's an invite
remember. So how does that make you feel.









Posted By: Soul Eater
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 8:24am
I'm just pulling your chain Mike, is your neck ok. Might want to start training
that neck a little harder with me around. We will have fun. I'll ask Steve to
make your shirts Pink and periwinkle because.... your special.


Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 1:13pm

special ed maybe......now c'mon Kel - you gotta be nice. It's my first trip to kneel at the altar of Pleasanton. This game is my off season motivation tool.



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Posted By: Shepherd4
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 2:46pm
Originally posted by M-BAAB M-BAAB wrote:

rob- Hell , Myles and I started this at 42. I threw open till my body MADE me lose the 40 or 50 lbs that you NEED to compete as an open. The plain fact of pain levels and longevity will/did win. Masters is not a testoterone dripping wired up deal like so many open games where friendliness comes 2nd. We are a bunch of survivors or late bloomers STILL fighting to stay in the game. I throw lots of masters games here in Tx and win most everything easily (not being a dick). I do this 'cause these are my buddies man. Who gives a shit who threw farthest? throw where you get the most jollies  - fighting kids or laffing w. buddies while STILL throwing your best. AND reason # 1 = throwing the 42 is just sweeeet. Have fun.   


Being a lightweight adds another dimension to it.  When i turn 40 (in 18 months), I can keep dropping the last few pounds to get to 190, or I can throw masters.  Either way, I stick with the 42 -- and I looooves me some 42!

On a lark, I threw in the open class recently.  Ugh.  When you're a mere 195lbs (and your last name isn't Burchett), the 56 is really, really heavy.

mpc


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Posted By: Soul Eater
Date Posted: 10/22/09 at 6:26pm
Ok Mike I'll give you a break. So this is like your holy grail. Mine was
Braemar.


Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/23/09 at 4:27am
Absolutely = my 8th year in this silliness and never been to the really big show 'cause I was in retail carbizz. No more! The bucket  list will be one shorter 

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Posted By: CraigGallo
Date Posted: 10/23/09 at 4:47am
roland i told u theres no retiring for u!


Posted By: CaberKing
Date Posted: 10/24/09 at 2:15am

Originally posted by CraigGallo CraigGallo wrote:

roland i told u theres no retiring for u!

Wow. You are everywhere! You are even in my dreams. No more calling you "Rock." From now on its "Sir, Yes Sir!"

"Sir, I'd like another, Sir!"



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Posted By: MacFarlane Red
Date Posted: 10/24/09 at 8:46am
All in All Baab and Mule are in the right ballpark on this.

I had the honor this summer of finishing 3'rd in the masters at cape cod.

The same game Don S set all the new records in Masters 50+.

Scott D finished second and was toe to toe with Don all day but he is in the masters 40+ so his good throws all day didn't make headlines.

I'll be in the masters 60+ next year.

We had a great day eaven if I got third by being in a field of three!

Masters class is great!

At least my low throws showed the contrast of how great Don and Ken are for the uninformed crowd.

It's all good.


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Posted By: Detroitpete
Date Posted: 10/24/09 at 9:56am
Originally posted by Shepherd4 Shepherd4 wrote:


Originally posted by M-BAAB M-BAAB wrote:

rob- Hell , Myles and I started this at 42. I threw open
till my body MADE me lose the 40 or 50 lbs that you NEED to compete as
an open. The plain fact of pain levels and longevity will/did win. Masters
is not a testoterone dripping wired up deal like so many open games
where friendliness comes 2nd. We are a bunch of survivors or late
bloomers STILL fighting to stay in the game. I throw lots of masters
games here in Tx and win most everything easily (not being a dick). I do
this 'cause these are my buddies man. Who gives a shit who threw
farthest? throw where you get the most jollies  - fighting kids or laffing
w. buddies while STILL throwing your best. AND reason # 1 = throwing
the 42 is just sweeeet. Have fun.   
Being a lightweight adds
another dimension to it.  When i turn 40 (in 18 months), I can keep
dropping the last few pounds to get to 190, or I can throw masters. 
Either way, I stick with the 42 -- and I looooves me some 42!On a lark, I
threw in the open class recently.  Ugh.  When you're a mere 195lbs (and
your last name isn't Burchett), the 56 is really, <span style="text-
decoration: underline;">really</span> heavy.mpc


Shepherd4--I'm with ya! Us old and small guys LOVE some 42! Even in
the Masters I feel like I'm the mascot of the flight--and man-o-man do
we have some kick butt Masters in Michigan- I feel lucky just to throw
with them--and steal every trick I can get!

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Mark Peterson. Pissing off bullies since 1965


Posted By: Trainerterry
Date Posted: 10/24/09 at 2:10pm
there is one reason make that 3 reasons I look forward to the masters... they seem to have more fun then many of the rest of us do, they usually have better cigars, and older more expensive scotch.

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"A man has to know his limitations" - Detective Harold Callahan


Posted By: ken crum
Date Posted: 10/24/09 at 4:02pm

Originally posted by Trainerterry Trainerterry wrote:

there is one reason make that 3 reasons I look forward to the masters... they seem to have more fun then many of the rest of us do, they usually have better cigars, and older more expensive scotch.

Dont forget the "hot women"



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crum


Posted By: BrittneyBoswell
Date Posted: 10/25/09 at 12:32am
Having spent a good number of my games throwing with the Masters flight (combining women, masters and 190s is pretty common down my way) I gatta say they are some of the funniest and most laid back of the athletes I get the chance to throw with.

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Highland Games - The drama is so high, because the stakes are so low.


Posted By: climber511
Date Posted: 10/25/09 at 3:07am
I started at age 59 at a skinny 200# (this is my second year).  And I do it for the shear joy of it - I'll never be competitive against the bigger and much more experienced (and usually much younger at the small games I attend) Masters but I sure have fun.  I don't care who throws with me or against me as long as I don't have to use that crazy 56.   



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