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    Posted: 2/06/07 at 7:58am

Anyone know where I can find a "Murphy" family kilt? Otherwise I suppose I could buy the fabric and make my own... has anyone done that?

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I would suggest wearing a "Dropkick Murphy's" t-shirt with a Murphy plaid.  You'll be looking like one bad mo fo.

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Irish kilts are made by county, not family. It is very hard to find one in your family name. This is because the kilt and tartan is traditionally a Scottish garb, not Irish (although the tartans we wear today were created in large part by an Englishman who owned a mill in Edinburgh in the early 1800s ... the traditional Scottish tartan patterns from long ago were not designed to be by family but by dyes and plants located in the area of the maker and based upon the fashion tastes of the buyer). Irish did not wear kilts. Northern Protestant Irish, however, did (they were generally from Scotland). The making of Irish kilts did not start in large part until the 1900s, due to the popularity of the Scottish kilt and the desire (jealousy) by the Irish to be as cool as their cousins.

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I have a kilt on order from www.scottishtartans.org and they have an Irish kilt section in the gift shop area of their website.

If you you want to try to make a kilt check out www.xmarksthescot.com They have a DIY section where guys talk about making kilts. You might be able to pick up some tips.
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Originally posted by McBain1975 McBain1975 wrote:

Irish kilts are made by county, not family. It is very hard to find one in your family name. This is because the kilt and tartan is traditionally a Scottish garb, not Irish (although the tartans we wear today were created in large part by an Englishman who owned a mill in Edinburgh in the early 1800s ... the traditional Scottish tartan patterns from long ago were not designed to be by family but by dyes and plants located in the area of the maker and based upon the fashion tastes of the buyer). Irish did not wear kilts. Northern Protestant Irish, however, did (they were generally from Scotland). The making of Irish kilts did not start in large part until the 1900s, due to the popularity of the Scottish kilt and the desire (jealousy) by the Irish to be as cool as their cousins.

Interesting.... thanks for the history lesson!!

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Originally posted by McBain1975 McBain1975 wrote:


Irish kilts are made by county, not family. It is very hard to find one in
your family name. This is because the kilt and tartan is traditionally a
Scottish garb, not Irish (although the tartans we wear today were created
in large part by an Englishman who owned a mill in Edinburgh in the early
1800s ... the traditional Scottish tartan patterns from long ago were not
designed to be by family but by dyes and plants located in the area of the
maker and based upon the fashion tastes of the buyer). Irish did not wear
kilts. Northern Protestant Irish, however, did (they were generally from
Scotland). The making of Irish kilts did not start in large part until the
1900s, due to the popularity of the Scottish kilt and the desire (jealousy)
by the Irish to be as cool as their cousins.


As much as I hate to say it, we still have to give the Irish a little respect.
Since we have the name Scotland that unfortunately translates to land of
The Irish.
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Originally posted by McBain1975 McBain1975 wrote:

Irish kilts are made by county, not family. It is very hard to find one in your family name. This is because the kilt and tartan is traditionally a Scottish garb, not Irish (although the tartans we wear today were created in large part by an Englishman who owned a mill in Edinburgh in the early 1800s ... the traditional Scottish tartan patterns from long ago were not designed to be by family but by dyes and plants located in the area of the maker and based upon the fashion tastes of the buyer). Irish did not wear kilts. Northern Protestant Irish, however, did (they were generally from Scotland). The making of Irish kilts did not start in large part until the 1900s, due to the popularity of the Scottish kilt and the desire (jealousy) by the Irish to be as cool as their cousins.

That is interesting history. I'd actually be interested to learn more.

However, I have seen "Murphy" tartans online, but only fabric, not in kilt form. I'm also going to have a Barlow coat of arms sewn on, so I'll be very decidedly "unscottish".

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You are right on the Scottish name. The Scots came over from Ireland and started duking it out with the Picts in the southwestern portion of the country, who were also getting some beef from the vikings in the northeastern. Eventually the two were too much for the Picts.
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that's a bitter one but tartan kilt was best
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