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    Posted: 4/16/15 at 3:25pm
Was wandering what you think helps your sheaf? I have heard heavy Deadlifts, overweight bags. What have you found that helped you add height to your sheaf.
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Not throwing it until competition. Practicing sheaf very overated(+its a stupid event that should be banned/any games I throw or AD bans the sheaf and either throws a second stone or second hammer)
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I would say snatch.   It feels more like a snatch than anything else for me.
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There are two things I think about when throwing sheaf - the amount of rotational power I am putting on the bag, and then the amount of verticality I put on it.

Some guys are extremely strong on the rotational end of things - Harrison Bailey comes to my mind in particular - he would stand further away from the bar than the height and launch it like a rocket - still making 34' with the 20b bag.

Others have tremendous vertical pop - Don Stewart for example.  He stands almost right under the bar, and just launches it virtually straight up into the air.

So - knowing how your style is, you may want to work on different aspects here.  For me to throw the highest, I have to really remind myself to get vertical - Tony's recommendation of snatch seems pretty close to what I would say as well.  But if your style dictates that you are a rotational "torque" thrower, then maybe things like plate twists, medicine ball throws or overweight hammer rotations might be your best bet.

I definitely would not recommend throwing an overweight sheaf - this will mess with your timing/aim (at least it would with mine, which is always suspect for me anyhow).

Also, YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG WITH HEAVY DEADS, go get some!


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Hapy's breakdown is spot on. For rotation I like hammer winds, alternating sides. Also low cables, mimicking the pulls for various events. For vertical, its hard to beat hang cleans, I don't worry too much about the form, just the pull. As I get older , I seem to get better results from trying to move weight faster rather than heavier. Get with me at Ormond, and I will show you everything I know about the sheaf. ........OK .....I will show you the two things I know about the sheaf........and they may be the same thing.
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Originally posted by Hapy Hapy wrote:

There are two things I think about when throwing sheaf - the amount of rotational power I am putting on the bag, and then the amount of verticality I put on it.

Some guys are extremely strong on the rotational end of things - Harrison Bailey comes to my mind in particular - he would stand further away from the bar than the height and launch it like a rocket - still making 34' with the 20b bag.

Others have tremendous vertical pop - Don Stewart for example.  He stands almost right under the bar, and just launches it virtually straight up into the air.

So - knowing how your style is, you may want to work on different aspects here.  For me to throw the highest, I have to really remind myself to get vertical - Tony's recommendation of snatch seems pretty close to what I would say as well.  But if your style dictates that you are a rotational "torque" thrower, then maybe things like plate twists, medicine ball throws or overweight hammer rotations might be your best bet.

I definitely would not recommend throwing an overweight sheaf - this will mess with your timing/aim (at least it would with mine, which is always suspect for me anyhow).

Also, YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG WITH HEAVY DEADS, go get some!





^^  I love this post. 



That said, most of us are likely strong enough to throw the sheaf really high, so make sure the technique side of it is buttoned up. 
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Originally posted by grasshopper grasshopper wrote:

I would say snatch.   It feels more like a snatch than anything else for me.

Damn right, sheaf always improves with more snatch.
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It's about technique and timing just like all the other events so you need to practice. I usually throw an 18lb bag. ( a lot )
With that said, I have found when my power snatch and deadlifts are up, I throw higher.
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