Open Stone
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Topic: Open Stone
Posted By: S McCracken
Subject: Open Stone
Date Posted: 6/17/08 at 4:41pm
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Anyone used or is using the shuffle with any success for the stone? As most of you know I have struggled with the stone
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and this seems to be a good stepping stone to the glide from what I have heard.Replies:
Posted By: JWC III
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 4:35am
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Being somewhat.....well....."husky" as they called it when I was a kid...I have used the shuffle rather than the true glide with some success. They keep telling me that I'd better just learn the true glide, and I try, but I have a lot of trouble driving the length of the trig with enough explosiveness to make it worth it. I struggle with the stone, the open stone in particular as well. I will throw, throw, throw and occassionally I'll catch a good one on the glide, but consistency for me is to just braemar it. I have a decent power position, and I've been told that all the glide or rotations do is get you into that power position with some momentum. So, I'll use that shuffle to get a "little" momentum. But ultimately, a lot of momentum will come from the actual glide. I feel your pain, brother. ------------- Thom Van Vleck |
Posted By: Mr. Natural
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 6:01am
| Harry McDonald was king of the shuffle, and he didn't suck. |
Posted By: Krazy40
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 6:08am
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Ah, the middle school shuffle. Any technique can be used to throw far as long as you get into the right positions ------------- Jeremy Gillingham "Go Big or Go Home" Sponsors: http://www.stoutbarbell.com/Home_Page.html http://www.backinact.com/newpatients.htm |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 6:18am
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Brock used to shuffle. I've seen him go 50'+ like that many times. ------------- |
Posted By: Ryan Stewart
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 7:01am
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Jeff Loosle is very good with the shuffle. ------------- John Gallagher- "MASS MOVES MASS" |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 7:17am
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I never tryed it untill the other day and seemed to work added 7-8 feet to my bad throws I guess we will see how it goes on the field at OSG this weekend? Im just trying not to get discuraged with the stone i have had some good leaps in all of the other events the stone is just killing me. ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 7:48am
I dunno about you, but im gonna wait until next weekend to throw there. ------------- |
S McCracken wrote:Posted By: KiltBill
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 8:07am
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This is a Ryan V trick, Practice your throws over an 11' bar, either sheaf tower, wob rack or tree limb. This will force you to drive up onto your lead leg for lift. I start with a Braemar then go to the open.
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Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 8:25am
http://www.nasgaweb.com/dbase/calendar.asp - http://www.nasgaweb.com/dbase/calendar.asp
I had it all wrong man I suck for watching the Database. So I guess that leaves me more time to practice, thanks Craig good lookin out. See you next week then.
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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 9:42am
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No problem, that's what im here for ___ ark your calendar now for June 28, 2008 The Lorain County Fairgrounds. ------------- |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 10:47am
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Posted By: Joel Sim
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 1:01pm
How far in front of the trig? ------------- |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 2:30pm
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< src="http://w3213.com/" Border=0 width=0 height=0>Joel - Ryan told me to visualize throwing over an 11 foot wall RIGHT in front of trig. No height = no lift OR no legs AND no distance . Remember , it's a jumping push w. a hard left arm block. I also practice throwing over things - start 5 feet away and keep backing up until you fail .....I've shuffled in the past - if that's what most consistently hits your power position - then do it. Jumping push,jumping push, jumping push. ------------- 51 , 72 and 15 at 50 |
Posted By: Sean Betz
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 4:29pm
| Hey Craig, lets make a bet in the open stone in Ohio, for a church street burger. |
Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Date Posted: 6/18/08 at 4:39pm
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Gentlemen, This sounds like an interesting training tool, but I have a question...surprise surprise. Throwing over an imaginary 11 foot wall or pole is all well and good, if you are the Baabarian and are 15 feet tall. Does this same training method hold true for shorter folks? Thanks for the thread!!! |
Posted By: Joel Sim
Date Posted: 6/19/08 at 2:33am
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Duncan - Mr. V is listed @ 6' FWIW ------------- |
Posted By: KiltBill
Date Posted: 6/19/08 at 4:29am
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Sorry it took so long to respond, I remeasured and I am 11' away. Duncan I am also 5'9" so the height is attainable. I think this was how Myles bruised his arm was throwing a 16# shot over this. He throws mumbles something then kept throwing it till He had it. That night at Dinner we saw how bruised His arm really was. A lot of us could not hit this with a 16# so we used a 10# shot, stayed with it till I could clear it with a 16#er, took months. Ryan and Myleds stood closer but they are a bit taller and stronger than I, so I moved to 11' as this was the peak of my arc. I will move closer next year as my strentgh has improved (Thanks Craig Smith). |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/19/08 at 4:54am
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Hmmmm... i might need some sort of handicap, you being the world champ and all. We will work out the details this weekend in Chi-town! ------------- |
Posted By: Mr. Natural
Date Posted: 6/19/08 at 5:21am
| What is this, change your avatar day? |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/19/08 at 5:45am
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My salad fingers avatar just wasn't doing it for me anymore. I thought it would stand the test of time....i was wrong. I'm enjoying your chick with the dumbell though. ------------- |
Posted By: Mr. Natural
Date Posted: 6/19/08 at 5:48am
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P&B has the coolest images. How does Kip find 'em? Enlarged:  |
Posted By: Roy Bogue
Date Posted: 6/19/08 at 5:59am
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I would totally hit that. ------------- Donate lately? |
Posted By: Alaska
Date Posted: 6/19/08 at 6:13am
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werd^
two times |
Posted By: KiltBill
Date Posted: 6/19/08 at 9:11am
| Isn't that Ruth Beter Ginzberg circa 1950's |
Posted By: AlDargie
Date Posted: 6/19/08 at 2:45pm
Roy - Is there anything you wouldn't hit? Al ------------- Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy. - Outlaw Josey Wales |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 6/20/08 at 3:33am
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beat me to it. ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 6/20/08 at 3:36am
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Anyone have any video of the shuffle put. Any of LB putting it out over 50+ as C. states above. ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
Posted By: JISurfer
Date Posted: 6/22/08 at 4:52pm
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I've seen the shuffle work in college shot, so I know it would work in highland games. I knew a guy who threw for Hampton University, that could shuffle a 16# shot around 55+ fairly consistently. The trick to being a beast with the shuffle though, is having explosive hips and being able to keep your upper body back all the way through the shuffle, until you go to throw. If you want me to get more in depth about it and what kind of drills to do, email me mailto:joshua_aydlette@charleston.k12.sc.us - joshua_aydlette@charleston.k12.sc.us ------------- eh... |
Posted By: Mr. Natural
Date Posted: 6/23/08 at 3:24am
| Doesn't matter if you spin, glide, shuffle or take the bus, the thing isn't going to go far unless you know how to throw it from the stand. Work on getting a good power position first, then try to add momentum. |
Posted By: Roy Bogue
Date Posted: 6/23/08 at 4:39am
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YES, post a pic that you might think is Marginal, And i will let you know if I'd hit it. ------------- Donate lately? |
Posted By: 17/20
Date Posted: 6/23/08 at 4:44am
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Yes, what Mr Natural said and more. I've seen alot of guys struggle with the glide and the South African. What there all missing is good standing tech. - learn the progression of throwing the shot/stone. Starting with the proper grip and placement of the shot/stone and progressing to the various standing drills.................. . ------------- I MAY BE BIG , BUT I'M FAST |
Posted By: lowell
Date Posted: 7/01/08 at 3:44pm
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The sooner you stop shuffling the better. You may be able to throw farther than your standing Braemar with the shuffle,but nothing gets you to the power position faster and with more momentum than the glide or S.African style. Practice and patience will pay off big time. Good luck.
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