Sometimes i front squat.....
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Topic: Sometimes i front squat.....
Posted By: C. Smith
Subject: Sometimes i front squat.....
Date Posted: 3/24/08 at 3:09pm
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Hadley? are you out there? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiLWGaBZdAs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiLWGaBZdAs I guess i tipped my hand this time, i'll wait for your 560 video.... |
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Posted By: Jeff Ingram
Date Posted: 3/24/08 at 3:28pm
| Pretty damn good Craig. Solid the whole way. |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 3/24/08 at 3:39pm
Nice looks like you got room for 585 maybe a 600?  ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
Posted By: buckcali
Date Posted: 3/24/08 at 4:24pm
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Posted By: Greg Hadley
Date Posted: 3/24/08 at 11:58pm
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Dear god! That was ridiculous. *gulp* I'll see what I can come up with.....I'll test this weekend. |
Posted By: xxxxl
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 12:19am
| Craigor, Very impressive indeed, but I must say as equally impressive is he vertically impaired water fountain they installed for Kara so close to the squat rack! |
Posted By: Bert Sorin
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 3:24am
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Very nice Craig. Good for much more. ------------- In Strength and Throws, Bert |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 4:07am
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I bow to the new holder of the throne. That is real deal. ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: will barron
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 4:24am
| amazing |
Posted By: Skullsplitter
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 4:33am
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That looked like a warm-up rep. Now that should transfer into some big throws. ------------- "I am the thread, the pupil, and the eye of the needle is my teacher" |
Posted By: The Jayster
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 4:56am
------------- please keep robbin, the Conway Family and Frank Henry |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 5:21am
Party Poker and Full Tilt Poker must have banned him so he decided to go train for a change ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
C. Smith wrote:Posted By: Mr. Natural
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 5:22am
Yeah, 'cause he wasn't strong enough before. |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 5:36am
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Thanks everyone! I felt pretty good about that one.
Ouch. She said she will refrain from commenting due to your godfatherness. I think it just shows how accomodating the local rec center can be.
Ha, no way. I still get my poker grind (Pokerstars, obv ;-) on everyday, and train twice a week. No one trains more than two days a week do they? Seriously? ------------- |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 5:41am
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Im doing 4 days and im going to admit I have even been doing a little cardio. My name is Steve and I do cardio. ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
Posted By: Borges
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 6:17am
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Nice. Where's your Zercher now? ------------- Cheers, Carlos "Live free or die" |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 6:27am
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Valenti and I were just talking about that this am. I dunno, i haven't done one in a little while. I suppose it's time...I expect some pretty big things there. ------------- |
Posted By: Roy Bogue
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 6:46am
You can tell in the vid that the inner two plates are plastic fake - o's. I'm calling B.S. on this lift...........  ------------- Donate lately? |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 6:57am
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Hahahahahahahah! They had some plates at a booth at the arnold classic that were used for like the magazine shoots and what not. So the bench had "585" on it and it was really like 200, lol. I need some of those. I'm feeling a 900lb. front squat soon.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9fPaZLJcwQc - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9fPaZLJcwQc ------------- |
Posted By: Roy Bogue
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 7:12am
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I might finally be able to pull a dead from the floor over 5 hundy!!! ------------- Donate lately? |
Posted By: kara
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 7:41am
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BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!!! super sick front...knowing how craigor can grind 'em out there was definitely a good bit left. definitely curious to see where the zercher stands. i love the spectators on the video...the guy on the ab machine and the girl walking to the water fountain just dumfounded. everyone in the rec center is in awe every time craig trains...which is at least twice a month
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Posted By: Mr. Natural
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 7:46am
| Isn't he worried about overtraining? |
Posted By: kara
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 7:50am
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LOLLLLLLL!!!! i think so...we've actually gone as much as 2x a week recently and he was saying it was way too much and he needed a serious break. i'm not kidding. ------------- kiltedthrower.com ~3107~ |
Posted By: Jason Pauli
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 7:58am
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"Everyone in the rec center is in awe every time craig trains..." I swear I stand in awe if I see someone squatting correctly with an empty bar in any gym. There's hardly any weightlifters left. Just geeks grunting on machines. If I ever see a real weightlifter again in a gym I'm just going to stand there and applaud. ------------- Team Pauli - You never walk alone |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 7:59am
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Hey! Well that is actually true. We train twice a week. I personally believe that is optimal. Anyway, we went about a consistent 6 weeks or so at twice a week and my body was beat up. So, yes, i need a week off.
and i took it.
and i front skwatted 555 the next week. ------------- |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 8:01am
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Posted By: kara
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 8:07am
ROTF so true!!! craig had to school some poor kid the other day who was doing some sort of mangled behind the leg deadlift on the smith machine. we won't even get into his level of disgust with all the little turds who curl in the squat rack. ------------- kiltedthrower.com ~3107~ |
Posted By: kara
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 8:13am
i've seen your methods in action and despite my skepticism tried them with freakish success so i can't dispute...but since i'm your wife i can still heckle ------------- kiltedthrower.com ~3107~ |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 8:13am
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Also, Wife, would you care to share you results since adopting my training philosophies?
uh huh....i thought so. ------------- |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 8:13am
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^^^ Such jinxaments.
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Posted By: Greg Hadley
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 8:37am
| That's the 4th biggest FS I've ever seen. |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 8:39am
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What's the 3rd? ------------- |
Posted By: Greg Bell
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 8:57am
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Sick strength! Have you seen a increase in your throws?? (WFH?) |
Posted By: Greg Hadley
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 8:58am
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Koklyaev in Glasgow. 572x3 |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 9:02am
Thanks! I have no idea, i don't practice. I'll let you know when i compete in a month or so! ------------- |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 9:03am
Ahh yes, forgot about that one. If i use more weight i get bumped on the list though right? ------------- |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 9:25am
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There is allways going to be someone stronger faster better. The fact of life I hate. ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
Posted By: xxxxl
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 9:30am
| Kara, I 'm sorry about the height comment . Listen when I see you at Worlds I'll hook you up with some sweet t-shirts that Elek has grown out of. Paul |
Posted By: Greg Hadley
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 9:30am
| I think you've lifted enough.......freak |
Posted By: Greg Hadley
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 9:34am
| BTW, what's your back squat? You gotta be good for 7? |
Posted By: Greg Hadley
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 9:35am
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p.p.s Atreyu is pissed. |
Posted By: Josh K
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 9:44am
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That was awesome, I love seeing that stuff and hoping someday........ Atreyu is good Josh |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 9:50am
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Surely you didn't think that was a limit lift? I have a # that i will hit this year. Then i'll retire until you surpass it.
Last time heavy bar was on my back was 1997. But i would be good for at least that.
And, Atreyu would be down with a big front squat, im sure. ------------- |
Posted By: Greg Hadley
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 10:10am
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I won't lie, I'm rattled. But I'll give it hell this weekend. ------------- 7 |
Posted By: 17/20
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 1:43pm
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Very impressive Craig. ------------- I MAY BE BIG , BUT I'M FAST |
Posted By: kover
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 2:00pm
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ADD ONE MORE REASON ON THE LIST CRAIG. Tell Kara the list is up in the 20 range now. |
Posted By: ken crum
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 2:12pm
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Everytime I watch a Craig Smith video I feel pathetically (sp) weak ! ------------- crum |
Posted By: kara
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 2:28pm
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Posted By: kara
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 2:31pm
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!! ------------- kiltedthrower.com ~3107~ |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 2:37pm
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You are not alone ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
Posted By: Mike Wills
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 2:48pm
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Craig, do you feel a tugging or even swinging sensation right now?
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Posted By: Sleeping Dragon
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 3:49pm
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I'm trying to figure out why your knee caps don't shoot through the wall when you are at the bottom of the lift. Adamantium? ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDLgedB70IQ -John Shingler |
Posted By: Coach Mac
Date Posted: 3/25/08 at 6:05pm
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Craig.....I thought you were
HARD CORE
straps ???? Just trying to keep it real.... ------------- Have a GREAT Day ! Rob " Coach Mac " Mac Kay |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 2:19am
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Thanks again all. Adamantium? I wish. Coach Mac - i assume you mean wraps, and yea, i guess im not hardcore...sorry to disappoint you. Maybe you can tell one of your stories about how you used to warmup with 550 to bring the hardcore back into the thread? ------------- |
Posted By: LarryBrock
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 2:39am
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550 was hard core enough for me...i dont care if you were wearing a squat suit anytime you put more than 225 on the bar and do anything with it I think its hard core. ------------- "No man Is entirely worthless, he can always serve as a bad example" Brian Oldfield |
Posted By: will barron
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 3:09am
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no, I think Bob meant the straps you are holding on to...which are not the opposite of Hardcore - using them is the opposite of dumb. straps will make the lift safe and spare the ligaments and tendons. I think Coach was joking - as he stresses safety above all. Craig you should try tying the two ends of 2 pair of straps together, hang each pair by the center knot and then put your hands through the pair of loops that are hanging from the bar - then rotate the hands up into front squat position Its like a safety front squat - no squeezing the pulp out of the single strap like your doing now. you might even front squat MORE than the disgusting amount your doing now. |
Posted By: Jason Pauli
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 5:55am
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+1 Sheesh Craig you're doin' all kinds of stuff wrong!
------------- Team Pauli - You never walk alone |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 5:55am
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Seems complicated. I dont really squeeze the straps that hard will, the bar just sits on my delts. On my warmup sets i usually just hold my hands out in front of me with nothing touching the bar.
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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 5:56am
*sigh* Back to the drawing board i guess.... ------------- |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 7:45am
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I wonder how you came up with 555 for your choice to lift in the front? Ouch again. Hail the new king. ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 8:08am
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I'm quite methodical in everything i do
Don't worry, that 555 will be a thing of the past soon enough. ------------- |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 8:16am
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I thought, or felt it was the fact it was 5 lbs over someone's 550 front. Just feeling it is all I am saying. Very much feeling it. ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: kevin Carpenter
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 1:15pm
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Awesome job Craig. this is year 2 for me with fronts...I will be over 5 in a bit. Still getting used to the choking feeling, now i am starting to like it... Back squats are a breeze compared to fronts. **I believe in the straps. Cannot go squishing your biceps...I think the only way I could get my elbows high enough and and my wrist bent back that way to "really front squat" would to be in a wreck with a semi truck before hand. Then I could contortion my way into that position. Myles, you know that scar tissue and grissle is the only thing holding us together any how. |
Posted By: BRUTUS
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 1:54pm
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awesome liftin craig, greg you said this was the fourth biggest front squat you've seen, is the other two, apart from koklyaev http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkSN3f-a3Ok - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkSN3f-a3Ok ronnie coleman 650ish? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyvHp_Az9M - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyvHp_Az9M at about 2.40 and rezazadeh squattin his body weight, 617 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkSN3f-a3Ok - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkSN3f-a3Ok
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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 2:21pm
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i assume he didnt mean ronnie coleman's front, as that's kind of a different front squat (although crazy impressive and it was 585x3 iirc)
i figured he meant holger kutroff's 300kg front:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaozriuWJqM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaozriuWJqM ------------- |
Posted By: Greg Hadley
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 3:12pm
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1) Kutroff 2) Reza 3) Misha 4) Smith I'm sure there are other monster fronts out there, but those are the biggest that I've seen on video. I didn't count Ronnie Coleman.... ------------- 7 |
Posted By: LarryBrock
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 4:03pm
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I vote Hadley for the biggest deadlift I have ever seen ------------- "No man Is entirely worthless, he can always serve as a bad example" Brian Oldfield |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/26/08 at 4:38pm
I feel very American on that list. ------------- |
Posted By: Pingleton
Date Posted: 3/27/08 at 4:13am
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I know the question was the heaviest front squats that people have seen, but, without taking anything at all away from Craig's extremely impressive lift, there are at least a few other well-documented results that are not available on youtube. Jud Logan's PRs in the front squat included a single with 602 and 550x3. I know Adam Nelson regularly includes front squats in his training and I would assume his max must be very impressive, although I don't know what it is. Many other very strong throwers, such as Udo Beyer, rarely if ever did front squats. Leonid Taranenko, World Record Holder in the C&J, used to regularly use 660x3 for front squats in his workouts, but never pushed them beyond that point because he felt he was strong enough (!). I am sure many of the Heavy and Superheavy O-lifters could front squat 600+, but that is an integral part of what they do.
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Posted By: Skullsplitter
Date Posted: 3/27/08 at 5:01am
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Shane Hamman regularly did fronts in the 600+ range. ------------- "I am the thread, the pupil, and the eye of the needle is my teacher" |
Posted By: Jason Pauli
Date Posted: 3/27/08 at 5:03am
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I was waiting for someone to post about Oly lifters rarely front squatting like Peter did. I'd always heard their fronts were so much more than their cleans there was really no point to it to progress in their sport. Can we end this thread now? I mean it was ONLY 550... ------------- Team Pauli - You never walk alone |
Posted By: kara
Date Posted: 3/27/08 at 5:23am
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heaviest american front squat on youtube....YOUTUBE!!!!! YES!!!11111 obv, that was the goal. ------------- kiltedthrower.com ~3107~ |
Posted By: will barron
Date Posted: 3/27/08 at 5:25am
| thats a serious title... |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/27/08 at 5:34am
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Hahahahahahahahahahha. nice. Youtube is the measuring stick by which all athletes are judged. ------------- |
Posted By: kara
Date Posted: 3/27/08 at 5:41am
cosign. ------------- kiltedthrower.com ~3107~ |
Posted By: Sleeping Dragon
Date Posted: 3/27/08 at 6:43am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_bqsdwwcE&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_bqsdwwcE&feature=relat ed ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDLgedB70IQ -John Shingler |
Posted By: Sleeping Dragon
Date Posted: 3/27/08 at 6:45am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWRbaaH9YWc&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWRbaaH9YWc&feature=relat ed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA937HiRlwY&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA937HiRlwY&feature=relat ed ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDLgedB70IQ -John Shingler |
Posted By: grasshopper
Date Posted: 3/27/08 at 7:31am
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Those videos are priceless. That just made my day!!! ------------- "Breathe deeply. Refuse to be weak. Refuse to be sick. Refuse to die. Think strong and you will be." -The Mighty Atom (Yoselle Greenstein) |
Posted By: dl_buffy
Date Posted: 3/27/08 at 7:37am
I love the mimicry.... Perfect. |
Posted By: Ryan Stewart
Date Posted: 3/28/08 at 1:54pm
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Ok Craig, I thought I rememberd Svend Karlson doing some sick front squats. So I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXf9fhYlgXo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXf9fhYlgXo . Dont know how heavy it is, but it is a s**t load for reps. It is at about 2:19 in the video. sorry Craig, we all keep finding videos to push you down the youtube front squat ladder. ------------- John Gallagher- "MASS MOVES MASS" |
Posted By: Ryan Stewart
Date Posted: 3/28/08 at 1:56pm
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my bad its at about 2:12 in the video. I think those are 5 , 25kg weights on each side. ------------- John Gallagher- "MASS MOVES MASS" |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/28/08 at 2:03pm
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There is no way you could say for sure those are all 25k plates. Look, my wife overhead presses 400+:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDulY9AJc_c - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDulY9AJc_c
nah mean?
Even if it was, which i have doubts that it is, that would be 595. Don't bump me just yet ;-) ------------- |
Posted By: Ryan Stewart
Date Posted: 3/28/08 at 2:12pm
Im not bumping you yet . I could see your wife doing that though. but if you look at his warmups with the camera on the bar you can see that they are 25kgs. your still the front squat king to me Craig  . HEHE------------- John Gallagher- "MASS MOVES MASS" |
Posted By: big MAC
Date Posted: 3/29/08 at 12:01am
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I've already told Craig I thought it was awesome. I'll say so again for good measure. Slightly gutted I can't join in the Smith vs Hadley vs youtube front squat challenge yet, but heres my latest one. Hadn't been going heavy on fronts and decided to go for 500 to see how hard it was. Had about 15lbs in the tank, but still didn't look as easy as Craigors. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJRgyidR8hw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJRgyidR8hw ------------- |
Posted By: Skullsplitter
Date Posted: 3/29/08 at 4:33am
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Svend had 270 kg on the bar. I have that training DVD "Viking Power". They don't show him jump in a river in Norway in the winter for a swim though on that video clip, which is on the DVD. ------------- "I am the thread, the pupil, and the eye of the needle is my teacher" |
Posted By: Roy Bogue
Date Posted: 3/29/08 at 4:53am
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Jono, I am a huge fan of yours bro. ------------- Donate lately? |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/29/08 at 5:36am
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Jono - Awesome! I wish i could even come close to oly lifting like you! ------------- |
Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 3/29/08 at 8:04am
Just for the record, 270 kg = 595.25 lb. ------------- "We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/29/08 at 8:37am
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Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 3/29/08 at 9:46am
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Oops, missed that. I think you can do it. ------------- "We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby |
Posted By: ken crum
Date Posted: 3/29/08 at 11:15am
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Ok , I'm watching the youtube video with Kara overhead pressing on this thread. My eight year old daughter is watching and she says "I want to be just like her, she's strong " " I wanna be PUMPED ". Then she throws out a most muscular pose ! AWESOME ! ------------- crum |
Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 3/30/08 at 9:07am
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Thats cool ------------- North American Highlander Ohio Chair www.nahighlander.com |
Posted By: kara
Date Posted: 3/30/08 at 9:15am
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LOL no way!?!? that's so cool ------------- kiltedthrower.com ~3107~ |
Posted By: C Cook
Date Posted: 3/30/08 at 11:58am
 ------------- When you think your back is against the wall, remember His was against the cross- Unknown |
Posted By: kover
Date Posted: 3/30/08 at 1:37pm
| My 10 yr old daughter wants to be like Kara,.........and become a pro cheerleader just like Kara....Go Bengals. |
Posted By: kara
Date Posted: 3/30/08 at 1:51pm
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LOL!!!! well her cheers look great from what i saw in glasgow...now if she can just do toe touches as well as you she'll be well on her way ------------- kiltedthrower.com ~3107~ |