North/South roster ?
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Topic: North/South roster ?
Posted By: M-BAAB
Subject: North/South roster ?
Date Posted: 10/15/07 at 2:45pm
| Anybody got info? |
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Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 2:48am
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How about a East...vs West comp????Mississippi as dividing line...do it the right way..one pro,one master,one woman,and one amtr....does North?south still include woman??? ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Rob Schultz
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 3:58am
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I think it should be a rematch of: Mike Baab VS. Myles Wetzel Two men enter, one man leaves. ------------- Captain Rob Schultz Charter Boat Adventures http://www.makoadventures.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.makoadventures.com |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 4:08am
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Robby baby, Mike and I are on the same team with nothing but tepid water love, but I see you with your stick stirring up that mud. We will miss you and your growing clan. And hold your water Mike, we are working on it. And no chicks this year Dan. But we do have an ample amount of masters on the teams it appears. I have never heard of them having a pro and why would that be the right way? ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: Rob Schultz
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 4:26am
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I wish I could be part of your team this year. The game is 14 hours away and I would have to fly due to no vacation time left and I do not have the extra money with a baby girl on the way. ------------- Captain Rob Schultz Charter Boat Adventures http://www.makoadventures.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.makoadventures.com |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 4:26am
The South shall rise again . I've never thrown in a team oriented Highland game , this should be a blast! Hell, I cheer for the Mule when we throw against each other - might have to get some pompoms for this.
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Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 4:37am
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M-Baab is the one stirring the pot-he knows who's on the rosters(shhesh he's on it) he just wants us to pat him on the back and say way to go Mike(come on Mike we all grovelled at your feet ,you got the prom queen,travelled the world like a king when you played in the NFL...want our admiration...WAY TO GO MIKE YOU THE MAN!!!!) ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 4:37am
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Hey how about MIke Baab for the NObel peace prize ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 4:59am
Dan - goober... I KNOW I'm on it - trying to figure out teammates and opponents for a bit of pregame obsession. If I rely on this goofy little fringe sport for my self worth , I got bigger problems  .........But, I will accept the Nobel in the spirit it was offered..thank you,thank you......."Mr.Baab, you've won the Nobel prize ! What's the first thing you're going to do?"........"GO FIND THE PROM QUEEN WOOHOO!!!"
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Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 5:05am
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next thye will be talking about Baab in mythical proportions..rememeber that time Baab threw the 42 50 feet-but didn't Stewart throw it farther?? maybe butBaab had to slay a dragon before his throw
------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 5:05am
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Next we will find out that Baab is Chuck Norris's equal ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 5:17am
| Don Stewart's tears will cure cancer.....but he never cries. |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 5:26am
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that's blasphemy...I heard Stewart cried once when someone stole his USA t-shirt STEWART USA looks good when I wear it to the gym ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Bert Sorin
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 6:39am
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Who else is on the team? Last year the North / South was really cool, they put on a great game. Go South!!!!
------------- In Strength and Throws, Bert |
Posted By: Chad U
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 12:21pm
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How are the teams picked? Any word on the roster besides Baab? ------------- It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man |
Posted By: UpChucker
Date Posted: 10/16/07 at 2:06pm
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Myles on the South and Terry Smith on the North...other than that I am not sure. ------------- Jerome I am not yet the fruit of the tree |
Posted By: meat
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:17am
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This is why I love Baab! "Losers do their best. Winners go home and F_ the Prom Queen!" -Sean Connery; The Rock
You are my Sean Connery ------------- Let'em Fly, Brother!-The Polish Prince http://www.newenglandstrength.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.newenglandstrength.com/ |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 2:15am
LMFAO ------------- |
Posted By: JISurfer
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 2:39am
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Haven't had women on the roster in a few years. Guess there's no good ones to put on there. ------------- eh... |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 2:42am
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OUCH!! ------------- |
Posted By: DarlinMACE
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 3:41am
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Since you're married to a "good one".. I'm gonna hope that that is sarcasm ------------- Live, Love and Leave YOUR Mark! "Kate Grammer" |
Posted By: KTDupuis
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 4:25am
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I talk to Kay about the topic of women at the N/S every year, and every year I ask him to reconsider. What I hear is that it is not about the ability to find quality female athletes that makes his decision. It is the fact that the last time he had women on the teams he (and the team captains) were given tons of grief, were questioned on their choices, and a lot of "strong disagreements" ensued on all sides. I was not on either team the last time women were part of the competition. I just know about the sh*tstorm that came out of it in 2003, and that Kay doesn't want to go down that road again. Josh...sarcastic digs at Kay on a message board do nothing but reinforce his position. I know you did not name names, but the intent is pretty clear. I am just saying. ------------- "I have a right to my opinion, and my opinion is that you have no right to your opinion" - G. Carlin |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 4:53am
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How do you score the girls, 03 we did it beside the men, but they threw weights that were much lighter. I think that was confusing for the crowd and me. Then how do you find girls commited like the men, that are at that level. There are not many guys that commited, much less girls. And remember, this is heavy athletics. It is not a girls sport traditionaly and I am sorry, girls are not strong to throw heavy impliments a long way, and that is what the crowd likes. Some people are not suited for some sports, but don't change the sport. As we said with the LW guys, give the girls the 56 and see what is up? They don't lower the goals in basketball for me. Your not helping yourself Josh. ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 5:07am
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I don't agree with your statements Myles but consider you a friend and since everyone is entitled to there own opinions go for it..some of the women I have seen in New England can flat out throw..you score there stone vs your stone..your heavy weight vs there heavy weight and so on ..last time in Montgomery Alabama-believe the North girl,and south girl not only won an event but both women were in the running for the overall and may have placed above you I am sure it is tough finding commmited women but they are out there-just look,ask and you shall recieve-but being that Kay embraces amtr athletics and shuns pro's like the plague it is a moot point to three of the top 4 women in New England as they are pro women..so they would be ineligible-don't know the status of the other south women North/South is a great competition just think it is a little jaded to the south teams since the thrashing @ Montgomery ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 5:15am
I ran two ladies at Saline this year and we had a blast. Kate Mason and Doreen Hobson. They throw their light weight vs the mans LW and same for WOB and hammer... It was a hit here in Saline and many people are still talking about it.... I say let the ladies represent North Vs South.... ------------- |
Posted By: Mike Wills
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 5:16am
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The whole placing above Myles thing is what he is talking about. I'm sure that he would be more than gracious if anyone - male or female - comes out and throws the same implement farther than him. Scoring groups together who are using different implements isn't valid though. The fact is, there are quite a few amateur men that a few of the women could out-throw using the men's implements, but, in an invitational format like this it just isn't going to happen. So, scoring someone on distance alone who is using a much lighter implement really isn't the right way to go about it. ------------- |
Posted By: MacD
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 5:20am
They don't lower them for women either. ------------- F*%#'in SHEAF! |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 5:24am
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ok went back to the books-sorry Myles. in the overall scoring you beat both women you came in 5th..thye came in 6th and 8th...in individual events- open stone 1 beat you,you beat one ....heavy wfd-1 beat you,,you beat one..lwfd-1 beat you,you beat 1,Hammer- both beat you,sheaf-you beat both,wob-both tied mailto:you@15 - you@15 feet ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: KTDupuis
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 5:30am
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Whether the women compete head-to-head directly with the men, or if there is an alternative way of including them in the competition, it does not matter. Including them on the team and scoring can be always be worked out. From what I can tell, Kay is trying to just plain avoid the headaches he dealt with in 2003. Dan just brought up something I never thought of...add into the mix now of who is a pro-woman, and who is an amateur? Ugh. What it might take is for someone to talk to Kay in person and ask him "What can I do to help you bring women back to the North South game? It is important to me". Maybe it will do some good, maybe not. However, offering your assistance in the process will get you further than message board criticism, e-mail criticism, and behind the scenes criticism. ------------- "I have a right to my opinion, and my opinion is that you have no right to your opinion" - G. Carlin |
Posted By: Mike Wills
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 5:33am
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Dan...you are misusing the term "beat". You can only be beaten when someone is using the same implement that you are. Otherwise it is handicapping...and that is only used for betting purposes. This is one of the reasons that adding a female to a team like this becomes difficult. Teams with multiple males and multiple females...with males being scored against males and females scored against females...would be much better. I don't think that is going to happen in the North/South games though. Maybe you guys could pioneer a team competition with equal numbers of men and women. ------------- |
Posted By: KTDupuis
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 5:35am
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Oh, and just like clockwork, as soon as the topic of women at N/S comes up on a message board I see the jabs. Personal attacks, sarcastic digs, venomous posts, etc. ...and we wonder why Kay is staying away from the issue. Hmmmm.  ------------- "I have a right to my opinion, and my opinion is that you have no right to your opinion" - G. Carlin |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 5:45am
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Because he is a smart man and it is easier to stay silent Maybe I should learn from Kay and shout my mouth from time to time ------------- |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 5:46am
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Mike Wills is right on with what he is saying. And scoring ANYONE throwing a different implement with everyone else is silly, imo. You are a tad off base there dan, myles didnt lose any event to Terri or Linda. They didnt throw the same things. I'm all for the girls throwing, but i honestly think in a team comp like that, if they are gonna be scored the same, they ned to throw the same implements. BTW - i got "beat" by a woman in some events that day too. ------------- |
Posted By: agm_
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 6:08am
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How about decathlon scoring - men compared to men's
records, women to women's records - and you total the points for each team, and toss the individual placings, because they're irrelevant in a TEAM competition. That would give men and women the same chance to contribute to their team's overall scoring, without worrying about who throws what implements. |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 6:10am
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I guess I come from a different train of thought...I figure since they throw an open stone-score it as such..they all throw a heavy weight score it as such but I can understand your valid points Craig and Mike W(wow a new kindler gentle dWood)...ok I have had something in the works for 2008..I am running a few games and one thing I was doing was to include pro men & woman at two games....at WMHG we want 10 pro's..6 men..and 4 women..they will compete in there respective pro class(paying 4 out of 6 and 3/4 places)..now for overall pro athlete of the day I would score the men witha 16lb open stone..women witha 8lb stone...then heavyweight fd..then lightweight fd ...caber...and wob..whoever has the best placing amongst the "pro's"get overall pro of the day and another PRIZE($$)...at this point some of the pro women(TJ,KM,MP,SP) can beat the men in opent stone...hvwfd..lwfd...and wob but for some reason hammers are behind(i know women throw 1/2 the weight in implements of the men) but for the sake of the argument we will try it this way for overall pro ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 6:15am
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ohh by the way the 5 or so times I met Kay Cummings and family he openly welcomed woman throwers and was all for including them in the games-but can see why he doesn't get involved with this board-at times he would be pulling his beard outKevin good luck with this format..hopefully New England men can be considered(we have some great throwers up here IE:HapyMeyer-always entertaining,and dependable...Grammar-good caber to go along with his solid game)(masa also has some big guns..Collins,Dickens,B>Fay,Royal) good luck in picking your rosters ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: KTDupuis
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 6:38am
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Dan, I am not on either team this year, and will not be at the game. (I was asked to participate, but had to decline). I am not involved in the selection other than lending my opinion on throwers if Kay asks me. (...and he doesn't always take my advice). I am involved with the N/S primarily because I am the webmaster for the SSAAA. I stay involved so I can update the web page, and assist the games committee with thrower bios and info for the game program. I have no say in who is being considered for the North. That is up to the Captain of the North team. If he asks me, I will give him my opinion....but I think he has it covered. ....and even I have been out of the loop lately. As of right now, I know of only 4 guys who have been selected total (2 north, 2 south)...one of which was mentioned in this thread. So even I am getting info out of this message thread. ------------- "I have a right to my opinion, and my opinion is that you have no right to your opinion" - G. Carlin |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 6:49am
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No problem Kevin..always had great dealings with you!!!,and kay and susan were always great to myself and terri..don't want my questioning to seem as the one slamming,innuendo's and such-North/South has always had a great history and if you are to go the ssaaaa website you see some great names mentioned as members(St Clair,Bogue,Barron 2x,Kimsey,Wiggins,KSmith,Braden,Csmith,Brock,HBIII,Lyttle,Ja mes.Wetzel.Howe,Jason,MSmith(wow all three smith monsters),Overfelt,Steiger,Dillon,Wade K,Lannie Pullon,Birch,Zolk,Frasure,Sorin,McKim,Brantley to name just some of the greats)WOW some huge throwers were part of this event ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: KTDupuis
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 7:02am
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Dan, Didn't feel slammed, I was just mentioning that I was not on the team. What I notice many times is after the teams are announced, people say "well, why was throwerX picked over throwerY?" Sometime people are asked and have to decline. That is usually not mentioned when the teams are announced. I have found that most times, to get a field of 5 throwers there, you need to have a list of about 10 you are considering. Yes, the names on the N/S trophy are pretty impressive group. ------------- "I have a right to my opinion, and my opinion is that you have no right to your opinion" - G. Carlin |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 7:14am
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anytime a team is picked someone will feel slighted,left out,etc and while not a perfect system it is a system that has produced some great competitions and developed some intense friendships-and besides getting better isn't that what we are after ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 10:50am
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Dan I did not mean to upset you, but no chick has ever beat me. Ever, never and won't. Your making my point. They come and throw something so light it goes as far as what I am throwing or further and you say they beat me. Well let them step up and use our weights and see what they throw. It won't go far. I want you to show me a chick throwing the 56 and show me how many guys they can beat. Distance or up, you let me know who wants to step up and show me. It is not a sport for the weak, why give them light weights and do all this junk to show them competing with guys. It is a farce, they can't compete, so don't give me this BS they beat me. Yea I out threw Craig this year, I went 46 or something with the heavy. Oh, so you don't think it is minor thing the heavy was a 42 I threw at the worlds? I bet Craig thinks it is more than minor thing. So I respectfuly dissagree with you, but still have much love in my heart for you. And I miss you as we have not crossed since your learning to walk again. Cool they throw, cool to compete with each other, but don't try to say they compete with men. ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: UpChucker
Date Posted: 10/17/07 at 3:48pm
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Heather (Chad/Big Daddy's wife) threw with the B's in Panama City last year and she beat a few guys on a few of the events. ------------- Jerome I am not yet the fruit of the tree |
Posted By: wallyworld
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 12:35am
An awful lot of debate goin' on here but Adam has already offered the perfect solution! Everyone seems very intent on ignoring it.
This way teams can be any number of athletes from any number of classes! "Pro's", "Am's", Women, and Masters. Actually, that would be a good roster for a North or a South team and really show which locale is best!!!! Decathlon scoring, while l don't see its need in a regular competition, would be an excellent equalizer for this format. |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 3:47am
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No that is not the perfect solution. That is again finding some mathmatical way for a girl to compete using impliments that are light. Instead, put them in the box and hand them the same impliment, and lets go. We don't need a mathmatician, it won't go as far. Don't change the rules for people who are weak. This is heavy athletics. If your not strong enough, there are lots of other sports, don't water us down with this BS. I don't own a 42 and don't want one. And a 14 is jewelery already. All I can say about the b dudes in Panama city is, that is a shame. But at least they competed. ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 4:33am
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"Don't change the rules for people who are weak. "..by letting women throw don't think that is changing the rules Myles....ok I could see your argument for lightweights and masters but women have no choice..unless you dig the kind of women that can throw the 56 far-I mean the former Soviet Union should have an ample supply for your tastes..but then agin maybe I don't have the brain power that you i was always wondered what that pink doily you wore on your head figured it was some sentimental but guess it was a wattage generator for your brain ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: meat
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:01am
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I think I was on the final team that allowed women to throw at the N/S. They were women of pretty equal talent and ability. I don't feel it had a huge difference in the outcome of the overall team score. I can see the problem of having the same woman show up every single year if she is the only one that is putting in the time and the effort to compete at that level(good for her, she deserves the spot). There are just far more guys to pick from than women. Part of the idea of the comp is to have a few different people doing it every year. I can understand why Kay is staying out of it. He has done a lot for games between N/S and USA/Scotland along with a number of other games he runs. He doesn't need to deal with that aspect if it won't change the nature of the competition. His health as of late has also been pretty poor. Kay Cumming is a BIG proponent of AMATUER games. The fact that several ladies in our area have taken prize money could also fit into his situation. This is another whole can of worms that shouldn't be opened! I don't think it would hurt to have them their or not. I will say that I got beat by a girl in the caber at my N/S games. I got 11:30 and she got 12:00(different cabers). I was the only guy to flip the men's caber as I recall. She took first in the event. Does it seem fair? Who cares? It was a great time and a great comp! ------------- Let'em Fly, Brother!-The Polish Prince http://www.newenglandstrength.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.newenglandstrength.com/ |
Posted By: mcdonl
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:08am
A subject near and dear to my heart. Thanks for bringing this up Mike, it is giving me the courage I need to bring this topic up elsewhere as a different subject. Sorry to hi-jack.... Commence with arguing. Leroy ------------- Leroy McDonough |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:17am
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Meat-I wasn't arguing for Terri-she did the North/South thingee and loved the expierence-she was on two solid teams for the North(one that lost..and one that won)..and since she has collected money-so that would negate her(as well as two other top women in New England)I was actually trying to get some hype for Denise Houseman to get considered..she is 2X masters World champ,and is presently ranked #8 on nasga..the problem I see is some of the women aren't vocal enough about promoting themselves(but there are others who are just the opposite)and may miss out on a deal such as North/South-so if an Ad(myself) top pro(yourself),top amtr(Hapy) or all around good guy(roy) YES I still believe that a more well rounded team comp would be a pro,a master,a woman,and two amtr's and yes I know the difficulty in picking a team and Kevin said it if you want 5 you must have a pool of 10 to pick from as not everyone can accept ON AN UNRELATED TOPIC-besides MAX"s give me agood restuarant in Springfield ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:28am
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Dan, why are you insulting my inteligence or attacking me in any way because I don't agree with you? That is rude and you need to appoligize. And ladies do have a choice, nobody made them do heavy athletics. Nobody made you say some girls beat me in some event. Meat makes the point with the caber. I have two girls, one is about to test for her Black Belt. I don't want anyone changing the rules so they can compete. Your wrong in your position, and even if I was wrong, it does not give you the right to start saying things personaly about me or my tastes like that. That is crap. ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:31am
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Myles -you know me better than that I'm only playing with you-you know there is much love for you even if I don't agree with ya...but I am sorry if you thought I was insulting you ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: agm_
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:32am
If you're talking about women competing against men, your objection is valid. I'm not talking about that. I'm suggesting that NOBODY competes for 1st place, 2nd place, etc. It's a TEAM competition, with TEAM scoring only. Points are earned for the team by throwing against the records your class. Think of it a little bit like college track and field - there's no direct competition between the distance runners and the throwers, but both can contribute points to the team. |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:33am
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Not to advocate powerlifting but put this discussion to powerlifting why are there weight classes???how about have all the pwerlifters lift as one-whoever lifts the most wins..I mean I hear you were a great 275 lb lifter Myles how about if someone from the 308 or SHW class listed more than you does that mean thye desreve the title? ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 6:07am
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First, thanks for the sorry, it makes me feel better. We are not powerlifting and don't want to be anything like that sport. That sport should be looking at us. But girls and guys use the same bench, weights and platform. Great 275 lifter? Haha, no Not me. But thanks for the lovin. If ladies wish to use lighter stuff to tangle with each other, fine and great. But no way you compare that to the heavies. I am off to the gym now for some frontage. An opinion is worth what you pay for it. ------------- Mule Sportkilt AST Sport Supplements |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 6:13am
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I can agree with that it like comparing apples and oranges..but in a team comp think they could be scored with decathlaon...go lift some poundage ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: meat
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 9:31am
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Hey Danny. I didn't think that you were. No harm no foul. I am just trying to look at the point of Kay. He never went pro and has never wanted pro athletes as part of his games. It was just another angle of looking at it. It might be a matter of not having enough women at the same level to compete with. Again, using my experience as an example. The women that threw were not the same caliber as Kate, Terri, or Mindy. The key thing was that they were evenly matched, as much as we could look at the guys out on that field and say the same thing. Would decathlon scoring make a differnece? Why don't some of our math experts take a look at some results from past years and figure it out. Again I am not advocating in either direction. Just trying to give another opinion. I say the girls start their own comp. Go East/West! I got love for Myles. I'm off to the garage to lift stones! ------------- Let'em Fly, Brother!-The Polish Prince http://www.newenglandstrength.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.newenglandstrength.com/ |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/18/07 at 10:06am
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cool...sumo d/l's tonite for me ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Deakion
Date Posted: 10/19/07 at 4:59pm
I believe that has merit, many have put in the time. ------------- Jonathan Irvin And they shall know no fear. |
Posted By: wallyworld
Date Posted: 10/19/07 at 8:12pm
Apparently, Adam, most of these guys either aren't listening or are afraid of the math!! Someone should tell them that the RMSA has a program for keeping decathlon scores. |
Posted By: MacQuarrie
Date Posted: 10/20/07 at 3:19am
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FYI, St. Louis would be happy to host an East vs. West Games! ------------- "True Victory is Victory Over One's Self" |
Posted By: wallyworld
Date Posted: 10/20/07 at 11:30pm
Silverback do seem to have a problem! You ladies better hurry and get back in the kitchen!!  The Silverback seems to feel challenged!!!!! ------------- "TRY NOT. DO OR DO NOT. THERE IS NO 'TRY'." Yoda |
Posted By: Trainerterry
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 2:19am
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that is not the issue with Myles... the issue is changing the weights for people.... his point if you want to compete you should have to throw the same weights as everyone.... do not read into more than that. I am glad everyone on this board is a mini psychologist .... too bad none of you can help out Snider! ------------- "A man has to know his limitations" - Detective Harold Callahan |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 3:31am
Don't need help.. I know exactly what am doing. I ENJOY pissing people off on this board to get the pot brewing. It is all in fun and try not to make it to personal. I understand Myles position on this subject. If you are going to be part of the team, then you must be a team player and everyone is equal from the Light weights to the ladies. This isn't a typical competition with division but the best from the North and South. So let it be as that.. If someone disagree with it, then don't be part of the team. ------------- |
Posted By: Trainerterry
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 4:25am
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Snides, get rid of that $%@ penguin under your messages... it is creeping me out.... with that fake smile and souless eyes... ------------- "A man has to know his limitations" - Detective Harold Callahan |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 5:03am
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Ok..I will change it ------------- |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 7:34am
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ok lets play devils advocate here..Mr Snider--if you had to pick the North/South teams who would be on the team???remember the original Kay Cummings criteria a)amtr athlete b)male c) resides in a state that took part in the original North/South conflict(THE CIVIL WAR) d)good-representative of the sport showing heart,sportsmanship,and abiility to function on a team North Team-Sam Grammar,Mike Collins,Hapy Meyer,John Styborski,Jason Thomas South team-bit of a disadvantage here(because I don't know them all)Myles(DUUHHH-no brainer),Jason Richards,Chafin..don't realy know anyone else just numbers but maybe Crazt -Wolf from South Carolina?? ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 9:08am
sorry M-Baab-by those criteria you couldn't be on the team ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 9:10am
Mike Baab- for reason C not D-don't start accusing me of other things ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 9:34am
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Dan - goober - Texas fought in the Civil War - cotton=slaves
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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 9:42am
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Chafin is a Pro. ------------- |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 10:20am
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North, Sammy grammy, Jason thomas, Dan royal, Beau Fay and John Styborski. Extras: Terry smith and Brett bobzien South: Kevin Dupious, Jason Richards, Myles, richard neely and crazy wolf ------------- |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 10:23am
how could I forget about Royal ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 10:25am
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I was going under the assumption Beau was injured/rehabbing ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 10:27am
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He has a 55+ OS which is out of this world....Plus he has a excellent hammer and he he a well rounded athlete that would help the NORTH win.. Dwood you need to delete Hapy and add Dan royal ------------- |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 10:32am
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my bad-soory to get your pampers in a bind Mr pro athlete Mr Baab-but I know Texas was in the Civil War-just didn't think you were from there ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 10:51am
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He looks old enough to have been... Still think ...BAAB vs MYLES would be a great competition ------------- |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 11:45am
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HEY!!! 8th generation Texan there boys - "We was here before it wuz Meskun....spit....Snider bite me |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 12:07pm
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man Baab didn't take his geritiol he's a bit cranky ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 2:19pm
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Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 2:44pm
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he's a crotchety old fart isn't he ------------- |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 2:46pm
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Didnt realize that... Who are the Team captain? North? T. Smitt? South :Myles? ------------- |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 3:37pm
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how many members of the secret society were part of the NORTH/South?? ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 3:40pm
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8 that I know of unless Valenti is using an alias on the team then its 9 ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: wallyworld
Date Posted: 10/21/07 at 5:58pm
Let me call "baloney" on that one! l've combined Women's and Master Men's classes in the past without any problems. Where there's a will, there's a way!! ------------- "TRY NOT. DO OR DO NOT. THERE IS NO 'TRY'." Yoda |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/22/07 at 1:19am
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capt's-???don't know Chris but figure with less than a month(with athletes having to get accomadations,travel plans,etc) think the teams would have been picked already ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/22/07 at 1:22am
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looked at our picks...you know what Dan Royal is a stud and great thrower but I would keep hapy on the list for a few reasons(nothing aginst Dan but he needs work on sheaf & caber,and you want the most dependable team points-its not decathalon scoring so huge stone,lwfd won't help him much)he will show up and throw all out and place top to middle of pack-has a solid all-around game..just my .o2 ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/22/07 at 2:00am
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I would think so.. I will wait with anticipation to see the teams ------------- |
Posted By: Beau Fay
Date Posted: 10/22/07 at 2:08am
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Thanks gentlemen, I appreciate the votes of confidence. However, as Dan said I am indeed recovering from a string of injuries and already thinking about next season. I hope to come back stronger and ready for PRs. A North/South bid would be a huge honor for me, and I am bummed that I can't go for it this year... but there will be another day! Good luck to everyone who makes the teams. I'm sure this will be an awesome competition. |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/22/07 at 2:16am
Seem like everyone is...Am taking next year off just so I can heal these injuries... Good luck in your recovery..look forward to throwing with you in the near future. ------------- |
Posted By: Trainerterry
Date Posted: 10/22/07 at 3:01am
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you cannot call baloney or any other delicious processed meat product on that one.... the weight of the implements is his point. In the quote you used from Myles does nothing to prove your point. Nobody makes anyone choose a sport. He believes everyone should throw the same weights. The day they make modifications for me and Myles to run a marathon and have it altered by time or length to help us compete with the Kenyans is..... kinda dumb I know but if you believe the sport should be run with the traditional sizes of weights then that can be your stance.
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Posted By: Hapy
Date Posted: 10/22/07 at 4:42am
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Hey Dan,
Thanks for thinking of me - but there are a ton of well deserving studs who throw way better than me. And my weak hammers and WOB would definitely hurt me in a decathlon competition. I would add Al Yodakis to the mix somewhere. Also Mike Dickens deserves to be on the list somewhere - but not sure if he is North or South. Justin Kincheloe from Texas I think, is also a major thrower. ------------- Real Men Wear Purple Tinky Winky Throw Far! http://www.facebook.com/CVTSA" rel="nofollow - Central Vermont Strength Association |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/22/07 at 5:16am
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Al needs permision from the governor..ehhr I mean Mrs Yodakis to leave the state of NJ...Dickens would be good but he just had a little one a few days ago...don't sell yourself short...you would do well ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: wallyworld
Date Posted: 10/22/07 at 4:02pm
Was trying to be nice! Didn't want to call "Bulls  !"
lf you told a woman that "if she wanted to throw, she'd have to throw the 56D," wouldn't that be the same as telling her to go find another sport? |
Posted By: Jess
Date Posted: 10/23/07 at 2:35am
| What about Josh for the south team? |
Posted By: Trainerterry
Date Posted: 10/23/07 at 3:14am
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Wally......NO. I understand your position and you are right....but with Myles stance and position he is right. Sport deals with this all the time and this is what makes highland games/heavy athletics great. There is diversity in how games are judged, equipment, fields, scoring etc. Myles believes everyone should throw the same weights and be as traditional as possible. Him and I would disagree on the WOB... I enjoy the spin he is stand only guy. (please do not start a spin vs. stand debate) Can't we just pick on Snider or Armstrong? ------------- "A man has to know his limitations" - Detective Harold Callahan |
Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/23/07 at 4:36am
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is the spin allowed at North/South?? ------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: JISurfer
Date Posted: 10/23/07 at 6:04am
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Sorry, i haven't posted in a while, haven't had time to get on a while. Yeah, I know I'm not helping myself. I've been told I'll never be on the team, so it really doesn't matter to me anymore. It used to hurt that I was told I'd never be on it, but now I just stay numb to it. I also think the past teams have been awesome too, so no disrespect to the folks who have been picked. It is what it is though.
And don't get me wrong, I liked Mr. Cummings when I met him and talked to him face to face. I still hope he's doing ok and even said a couple prayers for him, but I just don't care for his choices in certain areas of the games. Not his choices on me, cause it is what it is, but choices against my wife. Again, I LIKE THE GUY, JUST DON"T AGREE WITH SOME OF HIS CHOICES. I am entitled to disagree, just like he is entitled to his opinion of me. I'm not going to argue anything, not worth it. I'm not trying to be underhanded and make him out to be a bad person. I just state what I know. Please don't take it out of context. I just wanna throw and that's it. NO DRAMA ------------- eh... |
Posted By: Trainerterry
Date Posted: 10/23/07 at 6:11am
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Please no do not start this.... not even part of the discussion... have you not learned ------------- "A man has to know his limitations" - Detective Harold Callahan |
Posted By: Mike Wills
Date Posted: 10/23/07 at 6:12am
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I think that is a very respectful and constructive way to state your position Josh.
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Posted By: dWood
Date Posted: 10/23/07 at 6:14am
Please no do not start this.... not even part of the discussion... have you not learned apparently not but i don't have a black eye last I looked in the mirror...but is the spin allowed------------- JUST BRING IT / SPEED KILLS..BUT STRENGTH PUNISHES |
Posted By: Snider
Date Posted: 10/23/07 at 6:21am
Leave Armstrong out of this.... I will take it with open arms.. If someone here as a problem with me please PM or email me at mailto:csnider69@hotmail.com - csnider69@hotmail.com ..In subject line add You are an A-hole.. so I know its for me ------------- |