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Topic: Digital Massagers
Posted By: JWC III
Subject: Digital Massagers
Date Posted: 1/06/06 at 5:09am
Over Christmas as I made the endless rounds visiting friends and family, a buddy of mine that played D1 football, and has been endlessly involved with sports since and just hit age 50, showed me Dr. Ho's Digital massager, some kind of deal where you attach electrodes and then you dial up the power.  He claimed it has done wonders for a quad he "hamburgered" on a kickoff return that has been bothering him.  I hooked it up for 20 minutes on my shoulder and while I could feel it working (pulsating, contracting the muscle) the jury is still out on this in my mind, but I wondered if anyone else has one of these or can vouch for the $150 to buy one, would it be worth it? 

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Thom Van Vleck



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Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 1/06/06 at 6:13am
I don't think I'd by anything like this that's named after a person.  I mean, really, Dr. Ho?

The problem with a lot of these devices is that you can't really tell what they are.  Threre's a number of neuro-muscular stimulation mechanisms at play here, and different units do different things.  The nature and level of the stimulation differ significantly from one type of device to another.

For recovery, I don't think you could beat a good TENS unit.  TENS stands for Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation, and has a large body of technical studies showing its benefits for pain reduction and workout recovery.  A decent TENS unit costs less than $100 (some as low as $50), and a really good one about $150.  It isn't a difficult or expensive technology, so the cheaper ones might be just fine for the typical athlete.

-Wayne


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"We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby


Posted By: Borges
Date Posted: 1/07/06 at 7:18am
Don't be badmouthing Dr. Ho. That is the only TENS unit that will give you a happy ending.

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Cheers,

Carlos



"Live free or die"


Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 1/07/06 at 9:33am
Dr. Borges, reliable as ever (although a little LATE, if you ask me).

-Wayne


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"We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby


Posted By: -RP-
Date Posted: 1/07/06 at 12:22pm
My chiro has been using a TENS unit on my low back injury over the past few weeks and I can tell you that it has made a world of difference in my recovery time.

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-RP-

Clan Brown

"It's not bragging if you can do it."


Posted By: Lyle
Date Posted: 1/07/06 at 1:51pm
wouldn't a TENS and this digital massager with electrodes be ultimately doing the same thing...stimulating the nerve to contract the muscle in pulses?


Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 1/08/06 at 10:17am
Well, not quite.  Different levels and patterns of stimulation have different effects.  TENS is not principally about muscle stimulation, but about stimulating the nerves for pain relief and recovery.  It doesn't drive the muscles to a significant degree.  I believe that's because the signal is very low-level and nearly continuous (swept-frequency?).

Muscle stimulation is the realm of EMS units (electrical muscle stimulation).  Doing enough EMS to a level that produces a training effect hurts like hell.

-Wayne


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"We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby


Posted By: BigdogEMT
Date Posted: 1/09/06 at 5:07am

Thom,

What do you need that stuff for? You have "Magic Fingers Kerby" Up there to massage your sore tired muscles!!! I mean whats a water boy for anyhow?

Terry Lawson



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“The hard stuff we do right away, the impossible stuff takes a little longer!”


Posted By: JWC III
Date Posted: 1/09/06 at 7:36am
Well, Imagine my reaction when my friend turns to me and said he bought his wife a "Dr. Ho Electrical Stimulator".  I was thinking, "Gee, I didn't think you guys were into that sort of thing", but then realized I generally have a pretty dirty mind (though not on the level of Carlos).  As for Kerby, I'll tell him you said so, Terracy errr...Terry.

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Thom Van Vleck



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