how to drink whey?
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Topic: how to drink whey?
Posted By: will barron
Subject: how to drink whey?
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 5:05am
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Posted By: Lyle
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 6:24am
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I'm no expert but the body will only handle so much protein at one time and it would be better to consume your protein in many smaller meals. the predigestion thing doesn't create any conflicts with regular food. that being said you're not harming you body by eatin' it all at once, just wasting it. |
Posted By: Tim Pinkerton
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 6:42am
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There is recent evidence that suggests otherwise. I'll have to find it (if I can, sorry) No, I don't think it's a bad idea. In fact it will help to keep you from spiking your insulin levels which is good. Unless its post work out and that's what you want. You should try to consume some kind of complete protein with every meal so if your meal doesn't consist of that then adding a shake is a good thing. You might want to consider adding the whey to a casein form of protein i.e. cottage chesse. That protein is a little slower digesting and will make sure that your are ingesting a complete protein. ------------- "Big ain't Strong...Strong is Strong." Visit our training page at: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Get-U-Fit-Training-Systems/119414814828174 - http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Get-U-Fit-Training-Systems/ 119414814828174 |
. Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 7:55am
| Will- I was taught to consume protein all day - either shakes or food in any/whatever combinations. I've gone from whey shakes 3x's a day to never using whey atall (you really have to work at keeping whole proteins in diet - (lotsa meat , milk , cottage cheese every meal) and to be honest , have never been able to tell the difference. One thought I had in favor of whey shakes was that lots of your hi-protein food things are not particulary good for you long-term health -wise....and you will get REALLY sick of the lo-fat alternatives like tuna- ick.Ed Cosner is a high level PT and he just does 1 shake/day just before bed. |
Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 7:56am
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The original evidence of a limit on the body's ability to metabolize
protein was in a poorly constructed study back in the 50's. Other
studies have shown that you can handle as much protein as you can
stomache (like, 300 g or more in a sitting). If you're interested in protein metabolism, you might try a PubMed search for work by PW Lemon. His work suggests that 1.7-1.8 grams of protein per day per kg of bodyweight is optimal for (natural) strength athletes. Consuming a lot more than that just results in the body consuming it like a carbohydrate. -Wayne ------------- "We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 8:11am
| Wayne - I saw a study that athletes should take/eat the protein/per day based on total amount of muscle on the frame - not weight of bones,skin,organs,etc. Example = 280lbs x 1.8= 504 grams a day???? If muscle is only (let's guess) 1/2 of total bodyweight =140lbs x 1.8= 250grams/day - which is still alot ,but more possible.......I know Rick ....I said organs...huhuhuhuhu..... |
Posted By: Tim Pinkerton
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 8:36am
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Wayne's calculation is based on kgs of body weight. So don't take it times 140 but instead 63.6. That would only come out to about 114 grams of protein. Not that much. I would say that the recommendation would change with the athlete. A preseason football player having 2-a-days and lifting would need more protein than your typical field athlete. Pound per pound that is. The thinking being that it is much easier to maintain a positive nitrogen balance the more sedentary you are. ------------- "Big ain't Strong...Strong is Strong." Visit our training page at: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Get-U-Fit-Training-Systems/119414814828174 - http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Get-U-Fit-Training-Systems/ 119414814828174 |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 9:24am
What Tim said 
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Posted By: Wayne Hill
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 10:50am
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Lemon's recommendation is based on BW, rather than LBM, although it's
pretty much universally assumed that LBM or muscle mass are more
appropriate bases. LBM and muscle mass are well over 50% of BW
for both of you fellers. Using the BW basis, he'd recommend 216-229 grams per day for a 280 lb strength athlete. Lemon may have been the first to demonstrate that more active athletes need more protein than less active athletes, but he also showed that stength athletes need more (on a weight basis) than aerobic athletes. When you consider that many aerobic athletes have a higher percentage of LBM than strength athletes, it's clear that the higher absolute muscle mass of the strength athlete needs much more maintenance than that of the aerobic athlete. (Make sense?) -Wayne ------------- "We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 10:56am
Makes sense - thx. 
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Posted By: cabertosser
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 11:11am
| Mike you have taken away one of my simple pleasures. |
Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 11:53am
Sooo sorry.....I can't believe I could pull such an boner ,my big head is in my ass, now I've got a stiff neck...just not abreast of new cracking issues...what a weiner....need to go back on the nipple....Oh, I've slit my shirt!......enjoy! 
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Posted By: kgb1
Date Posted: 12/10/05 at 5:19pm
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Found this article on t-mag.com about protein http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=70FCEEEE9EA0FFA6A2ABCA68903DC027.hydra?id=844243 - http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=70FCEEEE9EA0 FFA6A2ABCA68903DC027.hydra?id=844243 Focuses on protein and aminos. Rick |
Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 12/12/05 at 1:35am
| More is better. |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 12/12/05 at 3:02am
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I agree. ------------- |
Silverback wrote:Posted By: M-BAAB
Date Posted: 12/12/05 at 5:54am
| Maybe that's because you 2 are in the despised "low-fat , lean , hard gainers club" , maybe ya'lls bodytype needs lots more constant protein than the rest of us normal "higher- fat, unlean , easy to gainers club".Too much just makes me fart(extra) w/out any noticeable difference. |
Posted By: Richard Doria
Date Posted: 12/12/05 at 8:19am
Barron, I think that was a "yes" to your question.
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