New men's amateur sheaf world record!
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Topic: New men's amateur sheaf world record!
Posted By: wsciscoe
Subject: New men's amateur sheaf world record!
Date Posted: 9/10/17 at 8:40pm
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September 9th at the Columbus Indiana Scottish Festival a new men's amateur sheaf world record was set. Congratulations Zach Riley on your 42ft world record with a 16 lb sheaf. ------------- Old enough to know better. Still too young to care. |
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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 9/11/17 at 8:04am
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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 9/11/17 at 8:20am
Posted By: jpfitness1
Date Posted: 9/11/17 at 11:58am
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technique question on this. I've been noticing that on these HUGE throws, the standard "drive down, check mark, sudden stop, let the bag go flying up" technique hasn't been what was used. It seems more like drive down, then drive through, then drive up. A constant push through the fork and the bag, then you suddenly stop when you can't push any further. Am i missing something or is that just a technique alteration that works for them? It would make sense to push throughout. We push the weights for distance. We want a long push on the stones. We push the hammer. Any thoughts? Congrats Zach on a huge throw. ------------- Josh Plumb I may not be good, but I'm consistent |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 9/11/17 at 1:26pm
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Zach and I actually talked about this very topic yesterday, as when we both teach sheaf to someone we do what you describe (a hard block/stop). What you see is just what happens on big throws when everything aligns. I think if we taught like what you see on HUGE throws, people would have an incredibly difficult time with accuracy, as well as timing (particularly getting the sheaf off the fork). That said, if you're going 30+ with the heavy and 35+ with the light, then maybe it's something your could play around with. But if you're doing that, you've likely experienced it already anyway. |
Posted By: JustinBlatnik
Date Posted: 9/11/17 at 3:50pm
THIS. Have had this same conversation with a few different people and the same conclusions
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C. Smith wrote:Posted By: Mr. Natural
Date Posted: 9/11/17 at 5:35pm
| I think when you're as strong as Zach and hit the positions you can finish by picking your nose and it'll still go far. Awesome toss! |
Posted By: Brian Randell
Date Posted: 9/11/17 at 7:00pm
| When did Mens A's / Amateurs start throwing the 16? Its always been the 20# sheaf for A's and Pros. |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 9/11/17 at 8:37pm
When did they stop throwing it? When I was an Amateur (back in the day) we threw the 16 all the time...
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Posted By: Krazy40
Date Posted: 9/12/17 at 2:39pm
I think its a regional thing. As an AM, I never threw the 20lbs unless I was competing with the pro's. ------------- Jeremy Gillingham "Go Big or Go Home" Sponsors: http://www.stoutbarbell.com/Home_Page.html http://www.backinact.com/newpatients.htm |
Posted By: Krazy40
Date Posted: 9/12/17 at 2:43pm
This is pretty much what I tell people. Once you are consistent in what you are doing, you can start playing around with it. At low heights when I'm just trying to get my timing and arch right, I will hook it a bit because I am being lazy with my block and the bag stays on the fork longer than it should. ------------- Jeremy Gillingham "Go Big or Go Home" Sponsors: http://www.stoutbarbell.com/Home_Page.html http://www.backinact.com/newpatients.htm |
Posted By: wsciscoe
Date Posted: 9/13/17 at 9:57am
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I noticed a couple years ago that my best throws in sheaf are with a high block. I don't try to do it it just happens. I think maybe when you put max force on the down swing the bag is traveling too fast to stop at shoulder height on the left. I don't know. I always teach new throwers to block at shoulder height and let the bag flick off. ------------- Old enough to know better. Still too young to care. |
Posted By: wsciscoe
Date Posted: 9/13/17 at 10:00am
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I have thrown at games all over the mid-west and they always throw the 16 unless there standards are too short. ------------- Old enough to know better. Still too young to care. |
Posted By: phatmiked
Date Posted: 9/13/17 at 9:20pm
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Follow through.... Harrison Bailey was the first one I notice doing it when I was watching video coming up. Eric Frasure did it too. The big throws have follow through. Allows you to pull and counter on the bag longer. I do it. I haven't gone 42', though. When you hit it right the bag whips off. ------------- |
Posted By: Brian Randell
Date Posted: 9/14/17 at 6:31am
Karl Dodge, inventer / King of the follow through. Say it with me..Karrrrl :-)
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Posted By: Brian Randell
Date Posted: 9/14/17 at 6:32am
Yeah in the midwest we always through 20 for A's and pro. Personally I love the 16#
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