Utah/Thanksgiving Point Highland Games Am Results
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Topic: Utah/Thanksgiving Point Highland Games Am Results
Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Subject: Utah/Thanksgiving Point Highland Games Am Results
Date Posted: 6/13/14 at 3:35pm
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I'll get them posted as they happen tomorrow; should be some big things happening in the Pro ranks as well...I'll get them too! ------------- The man in the arena. |
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Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Date Posted: 6/14/14 at 11:32am
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HWFD Duncan 43-4 Scott 34-1 ------------- The man in the arena. |
Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Date Posted: 6/14/14 at 11:32am
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LWFD Duncan 84-4 Scott 70 ------------- The man in the arena. |
Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Date Posted: 6/14/14 at 3:29pm
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No less than four World records have been broken or tied today. ------------- The man in the arena. |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/14/14 at 5:07pm
| four? |
Posted By: WALLY.OLECIK
Date Posted: 6/14/14 at 5:39pm
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Talk to us!
------------- 16lb-hammer(at)sshga.org "Try not. Do or do not. There is no 'try!'" Yoda |
Posted By: brandell
Date Posted: 6/14/14 at 6:20pm
| Well spinning WOB went down I believe and Dan McKim broke the 28 WFD I think and both hammers so that would be 4. |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/14/14 at 6:20pm
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28 was not a WR. Don't you dare give me an age or weight class record and call it a WR either, lol.
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Posted By: brandell
Date Posted: 6/14/14 at 6:21pm
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Hey I am just relaying what has been said. And what do you have against age or weight WR's :-) |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/14/14 at 6:22pm
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They aren't WR's. They are class records. There is one World, and one World Record. The furthest throw with that implement, period.
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Posted By: brandell
Date Posted: 6/14/14 at 6:26pm
Hater.....  |
C. Smith wrote:Posted By: phatmiked
Date Posted: 6/15/14 at 6:39pm
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Soooo, masters and lightweights can get a WR with the 42 . . . ------------- |
Posted By: Krazy40
Date Posted: 6/16/14 at 10:01am
Anybody can get a WR with a 42, but only masters and ligthweights throw it. I can't see not counting a WR in the 42 if a games opens it up to all classes. ------------- Jeremy Gillingham "Go Big or Go Home" Sponsors: http://www.stoutbarbell.com/Home_Page.html http://www.backinact.com/newpatients.htm |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/16/14 at 10:04am
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^^ Yup. Although I doubt a lightweight will throw it further than a master would. Which is why the 42 WR is held by a Master at 59'11". You might have heard of him. |
Posted By: TheJeff696
Date Posted: 6/16/14 at 10:13am
Didn't Overfelt throw 62'+ with the 42 at 40+ in age? Maybe it wasn't official or something. ------------- Jeff Kaste "I think there's a Squatch in these woods..." |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/16/14 at 10:20am
Nope. He's thrown for that record for the last few years. I've seen him go 59'+ more times than I can count, but never could pull off the 60 footer. |
Posted By: Borges
Date Posted: 6/16/14 at 10:30am
------------- Cheers, Carlos "Live free or die" |
Posted By: TheJeff696
Date Posted: 6/16/14 at 11:34am
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Gotcha. One of these days...
------------- Jeff Kaste "I think there's a Squatch in these woods..." |
Posted By: phatmiked
Date Posted: 6/17/14 at 2:31pm
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Sooo, there can't be a "Women's World Record" with the 28 lbs weight? ------------- |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/17/14 at 2:49pm
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I think it's pretty widely accepted that men and women are genetically
different enough that women's throws can be considered world records. But because you are a full grown male chooses to be small, or a full grown male that happens to be too old to throw far, no. |
Posted By: phatmiked
Date Posted: 6/17/14 at 3:15pm
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Interesting. Should women have different performance standards for other physical activities involving the same implements men use? Like combat arms professions? Firefighters? Police officers? ------------- |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/17/14 at 5:53pm
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Fantastic question, and nice debate brewing here. Sport standards for women being different from men, are as old as women's sports I'd imagine. There's basically no way a female can compete on the same level as a male. With regards to your examples (combat arms professions/Firefighters/Police officers) - I 100% feel that women should be held to the exact same physical standards as the males. You're talking about life or death situations with those professions, and as such, no one should get a break imo.
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Posted By: phatmiked
Date Posted: 6/17/14 at 9:49pm
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Debate? Oh, I'm just assisting in the hijacking of the thread. An implement is an implement. Women throw the 28# weight and the 16# hammer. Is their "genetic condition" any more or less controllable than the effects of aging? I mean, there's no way a 60 year old man can compete with a 30 year old man, right? btw, remember Billy Jean King? And, Becca Swanson is probably stronger than 85% of the men on Nasga. Eh ------------- |
Posted By: rogerws76
Date Posted: 6/17/14 at 11:26pm
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On another note. Who makes those hammer heads used in Utah. They seem to be an unusual shape! ------------- Roger |
Posted By: Soul Eater
Date Posted: 6/17/14 at 11:34pm
| That weight looked really odd was it a hemispherical weight? |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/18/14 at 8:17am
Success.
Are you really comparing aging to differences in male/female hormone composition and anatomy? C'mon now. And I agree, youth is going to win in that battle. All the old people competing together can and should have their records, but just understand that they are class records and not world records. It does a disservice to those who actually have world records (see powerlifting for another horrific example), and I personally don't understand why anyone would say that anyway. It's akin to the 'everyone gets a trophy' mentality that currently runs rampant in this country.
Of course. Remember that she played a washed up tennis player who was at the top of game in the 1940's and they played that match in 1973? It was a PR stunt and flat out marketing genius. Largest audience to ever watch a tennis match in the US. I assume you know the story about Venus and Serena Williams vs Karsten Braasch from a few years back?
Unfortunately, that says more about the men on Nasga imo. But ignoring the obvious there, even when Becca was her biggest (240lbs), she was no where near the top of the men's strength game around that weight class. Hell, my wife was ranked #6 for the men's total in powerlifting one year in her class, and she would laugh if you tried to tell her she was stronger than a man. I'm not saying that there aren't anomalies where a female can beat a male at something. That doesn't exist at the highest levels of performance and sport though. It just doesn't happen. It's not misogynistic, it's just fact. Men are bigger, stronger, faster, etc... than women. |
Posted By: Sean
Date Posted: 6/18/14 at 9:57am
I'm in the room.
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Posted By: jsully
Date Posted: 6/18/14 at 10:04am
^should probably walk out now. |
Posted By: CHAD
Date Posted: 6/18/14 at 1:32pm
Good. While you're up, get me a beer. Thanks. ------------- ...Josh |
Posted By: Sean
Date Posted: 6/18/14 at 1:41pm
Will a limp do? :)
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Posted By: phatmiked
Date Posted: 6/18/14 at 6:56pm
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Want to thumb wrestle? ------------- |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/19/14 at 7:31am
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Best of 5. Right and Left, obv. |