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Lift-throw? Throw-lift? during the season

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Topic: Lift-throw? Throw-lift? during the season
Posted By: Alan H
Subject: Lift-throw? Throw-lift? during the season
Date Posted: 3/22/12 at 6:31am
To kind of over-simplify, the last two seasons I lifted hard during the off-season:  4 months, November-beginning of March...and threw a lot during the season:  Beginning of March to early October.   I took 3-4 weeks completely off at the end of October.

I'm slowly getting stronger, overall from all this lifting and throwing.  That's a certain fact.  However, at the end of the season last year, I got pretty darned sick of throwing.

So I'm kind of thinking of alternating...kind of like this...

Basically...from now through Woodland (end of April) throw a lot, lift very little if at all.

May ... reverse the priorities...., lift more, throw only  1, maybe 2x a week through the MWC

June  .... throw more  (2x maybe 3x a week), lift less, or almost not at all

July .... back to lifting more  (2x/week) throwing 1x/week with week off before Enumclaw

August .... is always a weird month because we do a week-long backpacking trip in the middle of it, but...generally  back to throwing more, and lifting less

September .... I have three Games in September so just throw 1x a week, no lift.

October .... Ventura closes out the season at the beginning of the month.


all lifting would be speed stuff, no grinding up single rep PR's in DL or squat or bench or anything.

Thoughts?   What do you do? 





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Alan Hebert

Geezer-In-Training



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Posted By: jsully
Date Posted: 3/22/12 at 6:39am
Wacko
 
"you change your training more than................"
 
 
ok folks, lets see what we can come up with.. 123 go!
 
 


Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 3/22/12 at 6:46am
Originally posted by jsully jsully wrote:

Wacko
 
"you change your training more than................"
 
 
ok folks, lets see what we can come up with.. 123 go!
 
 


LOL

Always thinking, here, Jake! LOL  I figure I have this season and one more season (2013)  of this obsessiveness, because I will be going to Scotland next summer and I want to throw at 3-4-5 Games while I'm there.  I  might as well get as smart as I can, while it pays off!

After that I can get stupid and it'll be OK.  Big smile



LOL

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Alan Hebert

Geezer-In-Training


Posted By: Sean
Date Posted: 3/22/12 at 7:13am
This year, I am almost completely adopting the Craig Smith method of "Lift-Compete".


Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/22/12 at 7:51am
If it ain't broke...

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Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 3/22/12 at 7:55am
So what's the deal with the 'no throwing', Craig.     I'm still trying to figure out how to get out of my own way.  I can't imagine not practicing.    Are you a natural thrower?  Have you done it long enough that muscle memory suffices?  Or do you depend upon sheer braun - the "pigs fly just fine with enough thrust" school of thinking?

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Watch for falling rocks!


Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/22/12 at 8:04am
I'm not a natural thrower, no T&F background at all.  I was terrible when I started throwing HG.

What you've got to realize is that I used to practice.  From 2001-2005 I practiced (although still only wfd and hammer, and occasionally something else if I happened to get together with some folks) 

In 2006 I stopped practicing and have only touched the implements at games since then.  I had a great hammer practice and was ready for a game.  My hammer sucked that next game, and I figured "what's the point?"  That plus where HG falls on my priority scale made it an easy decision.

So, the moral of the story is, practice for a few years, then coast the rest of your career.   Smile


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Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 3/22/12 at 10:23am
Originally posted by C. Smith C. Smith wrote:

So, the moral of the story is, practice for a few years, then coast the rest of your career.   Smile

I think I can do that!  


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Watch for falling rocks!


Posted By: C Cook
Date Posted: 3/22/12 at 1:14pm
Originally posted by C. Smith C. Smith wrote:

So, the moral of the story is, practice for a few years, then coast the rest of your career.   Smile
 
If I may,...much more to it for Craig imo.  He has always remained relaxed and seems to enjoy himself when it comes to the games which are after all supposed to be fun (Scottish Highland Games, not Scottish Highland JOB...again imo).  He has also gone from about 235ish (Sarasota Super A when I met him first) to 300lbs while progressively getting stronger over those 10 years. 
 
Putting on 70lbs, lifting all year and traveling to tons of games for a decade is not coasting.  Sorry C Tongue
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 3/22/12 at 3:51pm
Shame about that expose' of the truth about C. Smith's continuous overachieving.  

That program really appealed to me.  


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Watch for falling rocks!


Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 3/23/12 at 1:08am
I practice each weekend, Craig did a game almost every weekend for years, what is the diff?  The guy got his reps in and under pressure.  

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Mule

Sportkilt
AST Sport Supplements


Posted By: ROB EVANS
Date Posted: 3/23/12 at 1:47am
I like this simple but effective mantra... LIFT - THROW - LIFT.  It's like rinse-lather-repeat Wink

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If Spencer Tyler is the gamma bomb of explosion, you and I are like single-serving flan cups in his lunchbox. Pasty, Jiggly, Delicious, but otherwise not very explosive. DUNCAN MCCALLUM



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