DL equipment Question (more strongman related)
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Topic: DL equipment Question (more strongman related)
Posted By: thegnome
Subject: DL equipment Question (more strongman related)
Date Posted: 3/01/12 at 6:05am
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...but since we have some really top strongman and Highland guys posting here, thought it might be cool. I have been working on grip ALOT for the past say 4 months. No straps, lots of farmers when the weather was good etc. Anyway I do my DL's without straps. I have a strongman contest June 9th that will allow straps AND a suit with a regular bar/weights. I have an ancient Z suit that is about 3 sizes too big but still is nice and supportive for DL's (at least it was the last time I wore it). It's March now and I'm doing my regular DL routine (no straps) but then adding about 15kg (35#) and pulling a single with straps.
My question is when should I start using the straps more and/or add the suit. If they're gonna let me use them I might as well. Rob, Andy, Matt, Craig,Ken,Jasen,Hapy??? ...anybody else I missed that might have an opinion? ------------- Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!! |
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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/01/12 at 6:37am
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Do you get anything out of just straps now? ie: is that 35lbs added set more than you can do without the straps? I would continue on the path you going, adding the suit and straps to your last set (or couple sets) from now until then. If it's a big suit, it shouldn't really effect your groove or stance at all. ------------- |
Posted By: rob meulenberg
Date Posted: 3/01/12 at 7:22am
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+1 to Craig's question. To me, you must ask the reason why one chooses to wear straps. For me, it is because my grip limits what I can pull. For example, my best pull in the gym is 817#, but I know sure as hell that I could NOT have held onto it with no straps. Hence, the reason I use them. Same goes for DL for reps events (bar or car). You grip will typically tire before your back, hence the use for straps. Is your event a single or for reps? What can you typically pull on a bar for a single before your grip tends to go? Similar questions could be raised about the suit. How much more do you get with the suit? If it is ultra-loose as you say, then you may not need much practice in it to get your groove. Your answers to the questions will have an impact on my advice. ------------- www.sportkilt.com |
Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 3/01/12 at 8:29am
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It's for a single rep. It's hard to tell right now because what I'm doing is the 5/3/1 and I'm taking that lest set AMRAP (I just like saying AMRAP....it's just a fun word...try it ...AMRAP) Then just tossing on some weight. I think what I will do is put on the suit tomorrow and then see where I am without the straps. If my grip goes I will use the straps and then add weight. ThenI 'll get back to you guys. As for the suit tightness the last time I wore it I could get the bottom on myself with some tugging and just needed help with the last strap. And thanks!
------------- Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!! |
Posted By: Hapy
Date Posted: 3/01/12 at 12:17pm
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If straps are allowed then use them. I don't think you need to train with the too much to get used to them. I have no opinion about the suit. Except that straps and suits are cheating  ------------- Real Men Wear Purple Tinky Winky Throw Far! http://www.facebook.com/CVTSA" rel="nofollow - Central Vermont Strength Association |
Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 3/02/12 at 1:08am
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Not if the rules say straps and suits allowed...... ------------- Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!! |
Posted By: BrianKing
Date Posted: 3/02/12 at 3:31am
| When I was competing in strongman, I always used straps to save my grip and protect my my bi's. I incorporated a single ply suit frequnetly in training as well. I'm pretty positive you will be able to touch n go in the contest so incorporate that as well. It will give you a few more reps. |
Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 3/02/12 at 4:20am
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...and Hapy you should come down with us. Drive to my house and I'll take you from there. I'm probably picking up one or two guys on the way and Dman is coming to hang out with his cousins. DL max, Log Press max (Opening at 165 I think), Farmers walk (165#/hand for 120'), 450# tire (most flips in 90 seconds), and a 170# Y stone (concrete) carry for distance. ------------- Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!! |
Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 3/02/12 at 4:21am
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... and come to think of it that shouldn't be that far for Craig to come (north part of Pgh, right off I76) and kick some ass in the Open HW's.....weights are more but way within the cool ones range...just sayin.... ------------- Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!! |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/02/12 at 5:41am
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Does it pay more than a highland game?
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Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 3/02/12 at 6:58am
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Heck no, just thought if you were around....I'll buy you lunch if that helps...wait maybe 1/2 of lunch....I'll bet you can eat alot. ------------- Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!! |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 3/02/12 at 8:49am
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hahah, I'll check the calendar, but I think that might be my first weekend off after 5 in a row. ------------- |
Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 3/02/12 at 10:26am
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OK did my regular DL routine and went up to 355x5 (no straps). Added the straps and went 385x1 (easy), 420x1 (easy), and then went up to 440 got to the knees then just couldn't finish it. It was there long enough that I remember thinking "Hitch it? No not sure if I'll be allowed to do that" So it was up there, just couldn't finish. Wish I had videod it. Maybe I was spent from the 5 rep set, or maybe I need to just do some freakin good mornings or RDL's. OK so I'm getting about 20 - 30 more pounds with straps. Didn't have time to try the suit though, maybe next week.
------------- Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!! |
Posted By: Hapy
Date Posted: 3/02/12 at 11:29am
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remind me closer to the day - maybe i will come out and play. ------------- Real Men Wear Purple Tinky Winky Throw Far! http://www.facebook.com/CVTSA" rel="nofollow - Central Vermont Strength Association |
Posted By: Andy Vincent
Date Posted: 3/02/12 at 12:13pm
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Use the straps if they're allowed, and they will be unless the rules specifically state otherwise. Even if grip isn't a factor, straps take grip out of the equation, and gives you one less thing to worry about. Hitching is typically allowed in strongman deadlifts. If you plan to use the suit in competition, train in it. I will not add anything new on the day of a contest; not gear, not supplements, not clothing, nothing. If the deadlift in your contest is for a max single, train for it. If it is, is it a 3 attempt max like powerlifting, or is it a rising bar max, where everyone takes the same attempts until there is only one competitor remaining? ------------- |