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Topic: Push Press question
Posted By: Tim P
Subject: Push Press question
Date Posted: 2/13/12 at 4:10pm

I get a bit of pain/tightness/discomfort deep in my right bicep at the bottom of the push press. It is not enough to prevent me from doing it, but it's enough to give me pause and wonder wtf?

Has anyone else experienced this?  Is hand placement a possible issue? Simply just tendon/ligament tightness? I'm not exactly limber...Big smile
I place my hands about shoulder width, no wider, and try not to flare my elbows out when pressing.
Thoughts?


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Posted By: S McCracken
Date Posted: 2/14/12 at 2:56am
Sounds like your your using the Bicep to help contol the weight? Slightly wider grip may help?

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Posted By: JamesBullock
Date Posted: 2/14/12 at 4:53am
Keeping the elbows as forward as possible helps it to a certain extent. I do not have a great deal of flexibility in my upper body either.

Of course ideally it is best to use bumper plates so that you can eliminate the eccentric portion of the lift, but far too many gyms do not have them nor allow weights to be dropped.

You can also use an elbow sleeve/wrap and simply wrap the bicep. I have to from time to time depending on how much weight I am using for the Bench Press or any type of Overhead Press. Works like a charm every time.

My favorite wraps for that purpose are the multi purpose wraps from www.howmuchyabench.net

Many of my athletes use them as well for the same purpose.




Posted By: KiltBill
Date Posted: 2/14/12 at 12:36pm
I have to use a thumbless grip, so I can rotate my elbows in more. It has something to do with being a Hobbit.

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Posted By: coachmiller
Date Posted: 2/14/12 at 1:31pm
Tim,
        Speaking from experience, I would work on flexibility. I don't  know your age but being over forty and not working on flexibility cost me a few months out from a torn bicep tendon. I felt a lot of strain and pressure in the bottom of the lift and went on anyway. Not a good idea!! As part of rehab, after a few weeks of healing, I worked on my flexibility for a few weeks before going heavy and so far so good.
Good Luck,
Brent


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Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 2/15/12 at 2:29am
Icy Hot and neoprene works for me.

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Posted By: Tim P
Date Posted: 2/15/12 at 8:18am
Thanks all.

Brent, I will initiate a stretching program post haste. I'm 41 and things dont heal like they used to. Confused
Better to avoid injury than rehabilitate it. 
I dont plan on giving up push presses, but will probably decrease the weight until I think Im ready to start back up that hill.

Bill, my stubby little fingers already have a difficult time enough as it is! I may have to try the thumbless grip anyway, whats a few dropped bars? LOL

+1 Re:neoprene...I'm going to be in a scuba suit before all of this is over.Dead


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Posted By: Soul Eater
Date Posted: 2/16/12 at 3:23pm
Flexibility needs to be good elbows forward and up. If you have big biceps then you will have a hard time racking the weight regardless of flexibility. 


Posted By: Tim P
Date Posted: 2/17/12 at 2:46am
Originally posted by Soul Eater Soul Eater wrote:

Flexibility needs to be good elbows forward and up. If you have big biceps then you will have a hard time racking the weight regardless of flexibility. 

Come to think of it, I have elbows down.



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Posted By: dl_buffy
Date Posted: 2/17/12 at 3:03am
Originally posted by Tim P Tim P wrote:

Originally posted by Soul Eater Soul Eater wrote:

Flexibility needs to be good elbows forward and up. If you have big biceps then you will have a hard time racking the weight regardless of flexibility. 

Come to think of it, I have elbows down.

Yeah, I don't get this one.  My elbows are down and flaired to the side a bit.  No way I could press overhead with my elbows up and in front of me....

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Posted By: Tim Pinkerton
Date Posted: 2/18/12 at 2:50am
I have had this as well. It was bicep tendinitis. Your bicep doesn't hurt from the pressure but from the extreme angle and stretch it goes through under a load. You are pronated and flexed and loaded. If you are also inflamed...you have pain. There are quite a few causes and a few fixes. Rest is always everyone's answer but if you're like me you don't want to here that. So, get a lacrosse ball and SMR your bicep tendon both below the elbow joint and at the shoulder joint. Additionally if you have the time and motivation you can find a lot of great mobility and soft tissue fixes on Kelly Starrets site. Look up MobilityWOD and you should find it. It's got great stuff for us "aging" lifters.

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Posted By: Sammy68123
Date Posted: 2/18/12 at 4:44am
Originally posted by Tim Pinkerton Tim Pinkerton wrote:

It's got great stuff for us "aging" lifters.
 
Ha ha--you "aging" (youngster)!LOL


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Posted By: Tim Pinkerton
Date Posted: 2/18/12 at 5:31am
I feel older than I am....

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