TRAINING LOG: Greg York
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Topic: TRAINING LOG: Greg York
Posted By: Greg York
Subject: TRAINING LOG: Greg York
Date Posted: 11/08/11 at 1:31pm
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N00b alert!
Age: 50. Height: 6’. Weight: 270lbs. Locale: Seattle Metro/Ballard. New to throwing except for one season of high school field 34 years ago. How I Got Here: Stumbled on the ’11 Enumclaw games by accident and decided throwing things looked like fun. Picked up a stone and made a LWFD in August! Found a local thrower’s forum and, at the very first get together, met a buncha Icelandic power lifters learning to turn the caber. Now, just how cool is that? Background in endurance oriented power sport. Rower (100 lbs ago). Surfski (80 lbs ago). Some olympic lifting and weight training. Coming off a seemingly eternal decade of injury/recovery/rehab thanks to a miscellaneous self- inflicted mishaps. Busted knee. Busted elbow. Busted wrist. Separated shoulder. So, have some joints to strengthen. Maybe others with similar problems can weigh in on that – more later. Able to start lifting again in August, and throwing stuff makes it fun like it never was before. For you old dudes looking for fresh meat for competition during our slide into the grave… Lift PRs: Current maxs are unknown. Won’t be spectacular, whatever they are. Starting cycle to first max in years. Check back in 5 weeks. Throws PR: LWFD: Single: 46’6”. Sprint: 46’4”. That’s a HUGE improvement! My sprint used to kill feet. HWFD: Unknown WOB: Unknown. Irritates the hell out of my shoulder. Done sparingly. 22lb Braemar: 27’9”. That’s ¾. Full kills a foot. Think I might need some work there? 18lb Open Stone: Standing 31’ and consistent. Add glide and I can find THREE more inches! Right now the focus is on throwing consistently correct to avoid shoulder problems. Less pain these days. Sheaf: Unknown Heavy Hammer: Single: 62’. Double: 58’ Triple: 51’. Any see the pattern there? I do. From these results it should be clear to everyone that if you’d all stop moving around so much, you’d throw a lot farther! Science! 
To all – thanks for contributing. Looking to learn a lot more from the forum. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
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Posted By: Duncan McCallum
Date Posted: 11/08/11 at 1:46pm
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Yeah...screw moving around! Glad to have you aboard! ------------- The man in the arena. |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 11/08/11 at 2:07pm
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Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 11/09/11 at 2:56am
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Thanks guys. Duncan - You were the first guy I saw you
throw at Enumclaw. You always remember your first! (Sigh) Ok - most everything is working. Here's the first session in first cycle on the road to first maxes in a while... Warmup Front Squat: 8*105 6*125 6*145 5*165 3*185 Stopped* *Knee tweaked from Sundays attempts at rotational stone. Need to figure out what I'm doing wrong there. General Cardio/Strength Circuit 3 * (30 seconds of Pullup, Pushups, Overhead Walking Lunges, Russian Twists with 30 second rest between) + 2 mins rest. Plyos 3 * 10 * jumping squats 2 * 1' of jump rope Shoulder and scapulae rehab. Does everyone have more rehab equipment than fitness equipment, or is it just me? ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 11/10/11 at 3:08am
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Warmup - Particular attention to left groin/knee, and
right shoulder. Incline Press 8*115 6*125 6*145 5*165 3*185 3x((:30,:30)2:00) Circuit - Jumping squats, Rows, curls, Hanging Leg Raises Plyos - 6*10 Jumping Lunges Grip - Plate pinches. 25" x 50 Rehab - Shoulders & scapulae Problem areas: Left groin & knee - In a particular controlled plane they operate properly. Variants are problematic. Right shoulder - can not hang with a underhand grip. Way to effing painful. Using Eric Cressey rehab techniques. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 11/12/11 at 7:15am
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Throwing day...
Warmups Pud Tosses LWFD Singles x 7 - Farthest 41'3"* LWFD Doubles x 12 - Farthest 44'6"* HH Singles x 5 - Farthest 56' * HH Doubles x 5 - Farthest 54'5" * AWESOME day. Every LWFD double went farther than every LWFD single. That's a first. It may mean that I'm on my way after 3 months. Not true in the hammer, but the doubles are starting to feel like they make sense. Only a couple feet off, where they used to be disastrous. * Throwing at a new field at Seattle's Magnuson Park** where I'm throwing uphill*** 3 or 4 feet so all my numbers have to be recalibrated. ** For Seattle-lites - Magnuson has an AWESOME place to throw. Concrete footing onto a hard packed sand field that is NOT a groomed play field. Plenty of field for big throwers. No pedestrian or dog traffic. *** Throwing uphill is part of my cunning plan to have successful games. Presuming the games take place on flat fields, and I only attend one per year, I should set PR's at every one I attend!
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Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 11/13/11 at 7:17am
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Another Throwing Day - Focus on feel...
Warmup Puds 5 x open stone - standing. Focus on proper arm, shoulder , hand mechanics. No shoulder tweaks! 5 x open stone - glide. Focus on shoulder mechanics and repeatably finding power positions. Only one shoulder tweak. Repeatable power position is evading me. 5 x open stone - rotation. Surprising improvement for second week. One bad shoulder tweak. Two tosses sucked bad. One was a good middling toss, and 2 matched the glide max for today. Gonna do more of this! Glide 29'* Rotation 29'* Throwing up slope. Rotational probably significantly shorted on flat, but still, happy that it's working. Past attempts have been maining prat falls. Hammer 5 winds for feel 5 singles for feel 5 doubles for feel. 1 triple. Double 54' 6" Single 54' First time ever that a multi-wind outperformed my singles. A fluke. But nice to have the possibility in my pocket. The triple wind actually got me a middle distance toss just slighter better than most throws today. Generally more kinesthetically familiar with the movement, but, not sufficiently aware that I can identify what causes what. Thought I was gonna get called out by the Parks department, but they actually ok'd use of the field as long as I plug my holes. That's the big win of the day. A permanent throwing field! ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 11/13/11 at 7:22am
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Another Throwing Day - Focus on feel...
Warmup Puds 5 x open stone - standing. Focus on proper arm, shoulder and hand mechanics. No shoulder tweaks! 5 x open stone - glide. Focus on shoulder mechanics and repeatably finding power positions. Only one shoulder tweak. Repeatable power position is evading me. 5 x open stone - rotation. Surprising improvement for second week. One bad shoulder tweak. Two tosses sucked. One was a good middling toss, and 2 matched the glide max for today. Gonna do more of this! Glide 29'* Rotation 29'* Throwing up slope so these are all new callibration numbers. Hammer 5 winds for feel 5 singles for feel 5 doubles for feel. 1 triple. Double 54' 6" Single 54' First time ever that a multi-wind outperformed my singles. A fluke. But nice to have the possibility in my pocket. The triple wind actually got me a middle distance toss just slighter better than most throws today. Generally more kinesthetically familiar with the movement, but, not sufficiently aware that I can identify what causes what. Thought I was gonna get called out by the Parks department, but they actually ok'd use of the field as long as I plug my holes. That's the big win of the day. A permanent throwing field! ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 11/15/11 at 8:04am
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Warmup
Roll Deads 145x8 175x6 205x6 235x5 265x4 Pain. Stopped. Back good, but left knee gives me that bone on bone pain at lockout. Need to find a new type of dead, or not lock out in the knees. Circuit (30" on, 30" off, 2:00 rest) Dumbell Clean and Press strong ... weak Mixed grip pullup Overhead situps Plyos Explosive push ups - just clapping, not climbing. Grip 135 single hand holds. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 11/17/11 at 7:31am
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Warmup
Front Squat 8*115 6*135 6*160 5*180 4*200 (No tweak. Must have been the running. Note to self: Stop running. You didn't like it anyway.) Circuit x 3 Goblet Squat for speed Renegade Rows Reverse Lunge High Plank Plyos Jumping Squat Shoulder/Scapulae Rehab ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 11/19/11 at 7:16am
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Throwing day...
Meh. Tired. The GPP portion of that workout I adopted is chewing me up and spitting me out. Almost couldn't work up the gumption to go. LWFD Singles * 6 Doubles * 12 Another session where the tape trys to beat into my thick skull the notion that right now it's more important for me to learn to hit the positions and throw than it is to try and impress myself with the speed of the weight. One of these days I'll pay attention. Hammer Singles * 5 Doubles * 5 Triples * 5 Triple went furthest! Yay! Minor victory. Love it when I accidentally make something significant happen. Gives me hope. If I can ever figure out what it was I did. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 11/20/11 at 7:34am
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Throwing day.
Feeling much better. Warmup LWFD 5 singles - Farthest 44. 5 doubles - Farthest 45. Much better form today. Doubles feel like they're about to allow me to start applying more power. Fast feet. Good torque connection. Too bad it's always catching me off guard so I never really launch. It's always "Oh, man, that feels good, shitwhatcomesnext... too late." Shot 5 standing - Shoulder mechanics 5 glide - new distance mark on new field 5 rotation - the potential of this feels much greater than glides because I never feel I get a good launch, but, right now, it's less trustworthy and just right on par when it sorta works. Absolutely no shoulder tweaks today. Doing it less wrong and rehab is working. Small victory. Hammer 3 winds 5 triple wind throws. Including best of the weekend. Oddly, the farthest throw came from a wind where I touched ground with the hammer on the 2nd wind. Not sure what that means, except that I'm doing something less that optimal when I can recover and still throw farther with one wind. HWFD - 3 throws. First throws with Old Celt 56. Hahahaha. THIS needs LOTS of work. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 11/21/11 at 4:15am
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Warmup
Roll Incline 8 * 125 6 * 145 6 * 165 6 * 185 3 * 205 GPP circuit - 30" on, 30" off One arm row Other arm row One arm press Other arm press 2:00 rest Repeat until pukey Jumping lunges Roll Shoulder & scapulae rehab. Shoulder holding together well. Left knee wobbly as a goose in jumping lunges. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/01/11 at 4:18am
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Gonna call the last week a deload week. I'm supposed to
deload every other week aren't I? What it really was, was a week in Texas eating chocolate pecan pie and bbq roadkill chupacabra. Deadlift 160*8 190*6 220*6 250*5 280*3 GPP circuit * 3 pushup lying leg raises Walking Lunges + 60 lbs Low plank Plyos Plyo Pushup Grip Standing holds for time @ 200lbs. Shoulder Rehab Scapulae pulls ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/03/11 at 12:47pm
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Throwing...
LWFD 10 singles. Avg ~41'. Peak: 42.5' 10 doubles. Avg ~42'. Peak: 45' "Low" seems to be the key concept for me right now. Speed just causes trouble. The farthest throws have a 'slow motion' aspect to them. Heavy Hammer 2 single winds. Avg 54'. Peak 55'. 2 double winds. Avg 53'. Peak 54'. 5 triple winds. Avg 53'. Peak 57'. Off balance. Off kilter. Wobbling all over. No magic in tacky except I now have no concern about holding onto the shaft. Probably ought to just wind the hammer during the week. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: chirolifter
Date Posted: 12/03/11 at 12:50pm
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NICE... Welcome
------------- "It's what you do when no one is watching that builds character." Gene Flynn |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/04/11 at 7:17am
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Thanks.
Throwing day... Warmup. Line drills for WFD. Open Stone Standing * 5 Half stance * 5 Glide * 5 Rotational * 5 No shoulder pain! WOB 5*2 using kettlebell. No shoulder pain here either! Evidence of shoulder recovery is the big win this weekend. Line drill question. I think I need to be rotated more at the second landing. Right foot typically lands about 10:30. Seems like I should be rotated further to at least 9:00 on landing. Can't tell from videos (Vierra, Stewart) how they land. Comments welcome here... ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 12/05/11 at 6:38am
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These are pretty good numbers for someone just starting out, especially at our *ahem* advanced age. good on ye! Go slowish, the quickest thing that will kill your progress is getting hurt, so just be aware of your body and don't rush things. Slow and steady works. Oh, and go see John Odden!!!bb ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/05/11 at 11:53am
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Re: Good numbers...
Thanks. LWFD is improving mostly because I like the feel of the move, but, partly because it made such a fool of me the first time I tried it. Nobody needs to break a sweat, though. Hammer's got me stymied - got no clue what makes that thing work. Stones aren't anything to write home about. WOB is pitiful - ended up flat on my ass in the sand yesterday because of that thing. Re: Advanced Age... Go slowish... I hear ya. I hate being milquetoast about stuff I used to tear up, but, it's the way of things. I'm acclimating. Not without protest and learning the hard way (two or three times), but I'm acclimating. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/06/11 at 3:19am
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Early Christmas present!!
Yesterday PT gave me blessing to back squat! The blessing goes something like this: "Well. I prefer you didn't, but you'll probably do it anyway. So I guess I'll opt to be part of your decision and see if I can help you stay healthy. Besides, we both know who you'll come crawling back to if you hurt yourself again." So, this morning was a celebration of back squats and good mornings! Back box squat (light, light, light...) 8 * 135 6 * 155 6 * 175 5 * 195 5 * 215 Could have gone heavier or sped on through more reps, but I can feel the wobble in the knee and the low back. So I'll stay down here, build a base, and practice rattling plates at the top through end of January then start building. Good mornings (light) 15 * 135 15 * 155 Circuit 3x ((30" on, 30" off) + 2:00 rest) Bodyweight squats for count Bodyweight recline rows for count Pushups for count Bodyweight Walking Lunges for count Plyos 3 x 6 Jumping lunges *Note: I have no idea how to craft a program for throwing, but I needed something to keep me focused. So I got an off season throwers program from PrimalATC. I think it's designed for high school kids. I've been following it for about 4 weeks. Haven't seen the magic in my throwing, but man, I feel good. Shoulder is improving. Back feels good. Knee improving! It has me doing things I wouldn't have chosen to do, but that's working out well. Two thumbs up from the gimpy and clueless! ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/08/11 at 7:32am
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Warmup
Incline Press 8*125 6*145 6*165 5*185 3*205 Right shoulder wobbles above 200. No pain, though. Rehab, rehab, rehab. Circuit * 3. :30 on, :30 rest. Alternate dumbbell bench press Pullups Overhead situp Romanian deads Plyos Jumping lunges Shoulder rehab Rear delt, hitchers, and scapular pulls. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/11/11 at 9:22am
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Wow. Where am I? Looks good. Hope there's an edit button... THERE IS!!!! SWEET! Saturday LWFD and Hammer. LWFD averages dropped a bit, something I would have blamed on slippery surface, had I not popped off a PR (46') on that same slippery surface. Just means I'm no where near potential. 22lb hammer averages were up to 57 with a high of 59'. A new PR for this field. Sunday 18lb Shot and WOB Standing shot averages were up. Glide averages slightly up with a high of 30ft. Rotation averages were down. When standing hips alone get me within 6" of a glide toss, I clearly need to work on glide. WOB heights are unknown. Tossing a 50+lb kettlebell. Doesn't look like it goes very high. Videotaped Hammer: No movement in hips or torso, just standing stiff. Only a slight rotation around the vertical axis. Still learning to sustain balance. About 1 in 3 winds gets me off kilter pretty bad. Videotaped LWFD: Footwork is worse than I thought. I'm landing the sprint with right foot straight back at 12:00. Seems to me from videos of the pros that I need to get the lower body rotated farther around. The optimistic take is this - I'm no where near optimized. There is lots of room for improvement.
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Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/17/11 at 6:40am
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Few days off for biz in Atlanta. Wasn't feeling so hot this AM, and 5.5 hour airplane rides tend to leave me creaky, but... Great throwing day for me. Warmup Pud tosses LWFD singles with avg in 42's. Nice and consistent. LWFD doubles with avg in the high 44's with two 46's. Still some inconsistency in throws. Heavy Hammer triples with avg in the 57s and one 59. Not bad, but gunning for 60 by year end. Hammer is exposing low back weakness. Focusing on low, Low, LOW in LWFD seems to be the key mantra right now. Will work lunges and front squats to strengthen. Learning to breathe between winds helps with Hammer. Still losing balance, but I'm getting at least one good throw per sessions to help reinforce the proper movement. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/18/11 at 7:16am
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Throwing day Warmup (light - wasted from yesterday) Shot/Ostone w 18lb stone. Standing shot - consistent 25' Landing shot (probably has a real name) - 26s and 27s Glide drills Glide - Couple 26s, a lot of 27s and 28s and one 30'6". Clearly I need to build some skill here. WOB with 56 10x. No measures HWFD (shortened) Ay chihuahua do I suck at this: 16,18,19 I know I don't need to throw it, but, it probably good to get some skill with a bigger weight. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Andrew Akins
Date Posted: 12/19/11 at 6:52am
| Greg, if you ever get out to N. Whidbey Island look me up. There's not too many on the island to throw with. |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/19/11 at 10:49am
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Hah. It's a deal. Might convince my wife to take a Whidbey weekend. Depending upon where you are we can toss while she shops. Are you up near Oak Harbor? ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/20/11 at 3:04am
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Bleh. Overcooked it this weekend. No gumption. Drug ass out of bed for partial routine. Deads - 8*170, 7*200, 6*230, 5*260, 2*290 Hypers - couple sets for back rehab Shoulder & Scapular rehab - tiny weights and tiny movements This is the end of the first phase. Suppose to deload then try some maxes. But, too much instability in too many areas. On the deads, for example, left low back, left knee and posterior complex squeak at 290. Opting to simply drop back and start another cycle and keep building the base. My PT made enough money off overly enthusiastic foolishness the last few years. Time for sensible conservatism. Uninjured and improving is a very good way to end 2011! Resetting. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Andrew Akins
Date Posted: 12/20/11 at 4:04am
| In between Oak Harbor and Coupeville. After throwing we can go to Toby's Tavern, drink beer and complain about old guy injuries. |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 12/20/11 at 6:30am
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I want in on this old man wheeze party.... Regarding squats... I have some lower back issues, so I take it slow. Figure that you don't need to be pushing monstrous amounts of weight in your first winter off-season. If you work slow and consistently this winter, you WILL get stronger. Then, after a season of throwing 2x a week and lifting once, you will be surprised how strong you are. Then, when you get back in the weight room next winter, I bet you'll do what happened to me....BIG improvement. I think it just takes time, once we hit the 50's, to improve. Young guys work hard for 6 weeks and BOOM. IT takes us longer. The advantage is that we're wiser and better looking than they are, and have the required patience.  Just keep at it...and don't get hurt!Oh, and do hang cleans or high pulls. Get a little bit of coaching on these things. I swear, if I had to pick two weight room exercises that paid off the most, they would be squatting and hang cleans. BTW, 46 LWFD in your first two months of practice??? That's HUGE. Lots' and lots of guys take 2-3 years to get into the low 40's...Like ME, for example! High 50's for 22 lb hammer. That's respectable, right there. You'll get into the low 60's soon and that's high enough to "place" top 3 in the 50's in most Games. If you don't wind up on your ass once in a while, you're not trying hard enough. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 12/20/11 at 6:35am
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Seriously... hook up with Jay O'Neil and John Odden. Go work with John, at least 4-5 times.
------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/20/11 at 1:21pm
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Re: Andrew::Toby's... That's sounds just fine. Let's get the maximum axial tilt festivities behind us and go from there.... Re: Alan::Better looking... Funny. Re: Alan::Wiser... Even funnier. Re: Alan::Squats... Any particular flavor applicable to any particular event? Seems that front works well for WFD. I'm guessing back works best for WFH. Opinion? Re: Alan:: Odden, O'Neil... I hit Odden's facebook page and will keep an eye on clinics. Is O'Neil the same as the one on the forum? ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 12/20/11 at 3:40pm
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Squats... beats me. I do back squats because whenever I've squatted in the past, like back when Hannibal crossed the Alps, that's what I did. Also, front squats hurt my shoulders and stuff. I supposed that mixing it up with both is probably best. I attempt to do that with zerchers. Yeah, Jay on this board/training logs is Jay O'Neil "Big Daddy" who trains with John, a lot. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/22/11 at 3:53am
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Experiencing temporary biological difficulties. We'll return to our regularly scheduled programming after this brief fight to the death with microscopic invaders from higher up the food chain. Explains the lack of mojo this past few days. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: swollenknuck
Date Posted: 12/22/11 at 4:25am
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Hey Greg, Welcome to the board. It looks like you are well on your way with your training. Jay is a good guy to get in touch with, he is in Dupont and throws quite a bit. He also holds training clinics with John Odden every once and awhile. As for you squatting question I would say that front squats are more applicable to all the events, I rarely do back squats. I know it is good to switch things up but I know lots of guys that don't do back squats because of knee's or back problems. As for your throwing, again it looks like you are doing very well. Just remember when you are out practicing don't always chase your PR, technique is much more important. Lately I don't even measure any of my throws, I find that if I measure I always want to start speeding things up to go farther. Just do the throws and watch for positions and the feel. You mentioned watching Stewart and Vierra in one of you posts, did you pick up their throwing dvd's. If not I would recommend it, CSAF (Canadian group) also has a good one. I live up in Victoria but make trips down to Washington a few times during the off season to visit the guys down there or for clinics, hopefully we get the chance to throw together at some point. ------------- Ray Siochowicz AD Victoria Highland Games Association www.victoriahighlandgames.com |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/22/11 at 8:41am
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Re: O'Neill... That's the 3rd recommendation for the man. Clearly a man to meet. Thanks! Re: Squats... Good to hear. Back injuries here - front squat don't cause problems. Backsquats and Deads are a direct channel to pain. Re: PR... Good advice. Have a history of overdoing most everything. Sensible is a foreign concept. Good time, too. Just picked up a Hoffa beginning shot videos. It's very clear I need to learn basic movement. Also read a Dan John article that described putting a target within nominal range, and simply concentrating on hitting that target with the least possible effort. Said to help overcome something he calls the "speed barrier". Have a Vierra and a Stewart highland video. Each focuses on and articulates things differently - helpful to have multiple perspectives. Will seek the Canadian video, too. Had the benefit of a jump start with a local thrower, but until the weather improves and more people get out, I'm learning by video. Re: Clinics south of the border... I'll keep an eye open! Happy to learn more. Lots more to it than meets the eye! ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/24/11 at 7:21am
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Happy Post Maximum Axial Tilt! LWFD - One surprising single wind 45. Avg on singles was 44 today. Plus, 6 double 46+'s including one brand new 47'. Get to reset the stretch goal out to 48. Heavy Hammer - All triple winds exceeded 58'. But, (Dammit) high throw was a single wind 60+'. One of these days I'm gonna figure this damned thing out. Don't know where the heck those came from. I guess the secret is to feel like shit all week. Oh, chalked up for the LWFD for the first time. Helps a lot! No torn skin. Also, from Matso's equipment article, learned to use tackied up leather gloves with the hammer. That works great! Used to just tacky up my hands. My truck's steering wheel thanks you, Matso. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/26/11 at 7:05am
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Made self a crappy beginner caber yesterday. About 75lbs, 16 foot. Shaved down one end with the trusty sabre saw and angle grinder. Took it out to turn it and... Cracked the shit out of it first turn. Looked 12:00 ish though. Got 8 more turns before it busted. WOB. Ugh. Clearing 11 foot, but that's about it. Need more mojo. Practiced rotational shot drills. Decided that I'm going to have to concentrate on speed and positioning because I'm not going to out power anyone on this board. Getting some good feedback from speed work nice increases in distances when my focus is solely on speed and position. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: bigirish01
Date Posted: 12/27/11 at 2:36am
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Hey Greg! Send me a friend request on Facebook. My email is mailto:cabertosser04@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow - cabertosser04@yahoo.com .
Look forward to hearin from you! Log is lookin good! ------------- Jay "Big Daddy" O'Neill |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/28/11 at 2:56am
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Said I wasn't gonna do it, but did it anyway... Deads 345. Attempted 355 and failed. Incline 220. Didn't go deep enough on the first. Nailed the second. FSquat 245. Probably should have attempted 250, but this number's better than expected. Whole buncha rehab. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/28/11 at 9:55am
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EoY 2012 goals... Lifts - Since I'm really just getting started again...
Throws - No clue how reasonable these goals are...
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Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 12/31/11 at 7:03am
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Throwing. Fantastic day. LWFD 3 throws at 49+, with a new high of 49'7". Think I fouled out on the big throw. 3 throws at 48+ Bunch in high 46's and 47's. Soft and low first turn, then low and smooth sprint seems to be the best mantra for smooth throws. My nervous system seems to be internalizing the timing because the best throws aren't particularly hard, however, there's no way I could articulate that timing, or even replicate it on demand. Plus, I began practicing my competition throws. 31' foot and down hard on my hip and elbow on the concrete! Took a few minutes to walk that sucker off. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: KiltBill
Date Posted: 12/31/11 at 4:01pm
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When you going to start training sheaf? This is my favorite event!
Trapbar deadlifts are easier on the back and more like a squat. Give them a try. Really helps with the sheaf.
Nice training log. You going to do the Masters World Championships this year 2012?
Happy New Year! ------------- Remember Kay Cummings, Father of the Highland Games in the Southeast and my friend. Lets Go Run With The Big Dogs! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/01/12 at 7:55am
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Re: Sheaf... Funny you mention sheaf - I just finished sewing one up. It's shy of 20lbs, but it'll do to get started. I'm hoping to have some natural chops at this because I pitched uncountable tons of hay on a ranch in the way back and long ago. There oughta be some tendon development and muscle memory there. But, I have some other issues that make "up" problematic these days. Deadlift and squats suffer. WoB suffers big time. Have to see about sheaf. Re: Championship. Ha! I just wanna do a game or two! Last year at this time I had difficulty walkin up and down steps, and couldn't steer a car with my right arm. I'm just freakin' ablaze with joy over the ability to move athletically again! Hammer day... Gonna give the hammer its own day for a few months so my nervous system can spend more time on the motion. Built a simple light weight rope hammer. 15 rope winds 5x10 heavy hammer winds trying to find my inner hula dancer 10 heavy hammer throws - high of 62. Buncha 60+. Averaged 60. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 1/01/12 at 10:48am
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I really hope I can come up for Enumclaw this year so we can wow the crowd, gape in awe of Jays biceps, drink beer and generally not act our age.
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Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/01/12 at 1:54pm
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Is Enumclaw open, or iby navigation only? ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/02/12 at 5:26am
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Stone. My trusty 16lb misshapen brass shot. 5 sets of Rotation mirror drills. 5 Rotation med ball mirror throws. 5 Rotational mirror throws. 3 full rotational throws. Left knee not happy at all this morning. Stopped. 5 Glides - best of 33. Avg 31+ ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: bigirish01
Date Posted: 1/02/12 at 8:44am
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Alan H wrote:Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/02/12 at 10:47am
I either need to wear my reading glasses or simply stop posting using Steve Job's spelling Nazi iphone. Open? Or invitation? ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: bigirish01
Date Posted: 1/03/12 at 2:38am
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Greg you can enter as a B athlete and if your numbers(from Competition) are good enough to make the 12 person limit you will get in.... shouldnt be much of a problem. Or if you want to come in as a Master Over 40, over 50 you can eneter. The key is to get you application in early. ------------- Jay "Big Daddy" O'Neill |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 1/03/12 at 5:46am
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Greg, you're 50+, right? There's a limit of 12, I think, in the combined 40 and 50 Masters, but we've never topped out in the 50's. Usually there are 4-6 of us, and you have the numbers to hang with us. Between now and July...whoooiieee! You bet. Get an application in to Wally Olecik early, like May. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/03/12 at 7:18am
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Re: 50+ Yup. Re: Get it in... S'ok. It was fun watchin' last year. (Maybe) It'll be fun playin' this year. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 1/03/12 at 8:04am
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Herea re your goals, as per a post up the board a couple... -------------- Throws - No clue how reasonable these goals are...
------------ OK, here's where I'm throwing right now, and I'm ranked #11 in the 50's in the NASGA database. LWFD - 46-48, with a few 'bad days" down at 42-44 in 2011. I've gone over 50 a couple of times, in 2010. I'd sure like to see 50+ again in 2012 Heavy Hammer - regularly throw about 64-66, PR is a tick over 70. I have a few at 68+ WOB ... I get 13 about half the time with the 42 pounder. PR is 13' 6" . I'd sure like to see 14 this season. I don't throw the 56 much, but this past summer I cleared 10 but didn't get 11 with it at a "fun" Games. Open Stone.... I struggled for 3 years to get over 30 feet. I SUCK at Stones. Now things are starting to click and I went over 32 feet twice in 2011. I think I could see 34 this season if I stay strong and keep the mojo flowing. Braemar ... I've gone over 27 a couple of times, usually high 25's, 26+. I'd be delighted to see 28. PR with what is probably a slightly underweight rock, is 27' 7" ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/03/12 at 11:38am
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That's because there's only 19 of us! Thanks, Alan. I'll try to make you break a sweat this summer. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/05/12 at 2:51am
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Starting new cycle. Front squat - 10*100, 8*125, 8*150, 6*175, 5*195 Speed Circuits * 3 (Pushup *30", Row*30", Row*30", Weighted Lunges*30", Leg Raises*30", 2:00' off) Plyo's * 3 (Jumping squats) Rehab, rehab, rehab... Note: Couldn't complete circuits. Cut if off at 2. The floors nearly got redecorated this morning. I let GPP slip the past 4 weeks. Clearly evident this morning that that I should shave lifting and NOT GPP if I'm pressed for time. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/07/12 at 3:16pm
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Sore. Lung-cheesy. Hacking. Threw LWFD anyway... Buncha pud throws to get the slinging mojo. Singles - Throwing consistently about 45' Doubles - buncha 48's, 49's, and a couple over 50' ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/08/12 at 6:06am
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Hammer. Warmup w Pud on a rope. Wild discrepancies. Walking winds forward and backward to learn to smooth things out. Heavy hammer. 61+, several 60+, buncha 59s, couple 58s Super tackled up and threw a buncha 52s. Learned there is such a thing as "too much tacky." Tried different stances. Decided I'm not consistent enough to be experimenting. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Andrew Akins
Date Posted: 1/09/12 at 6:26am
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http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100067550/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053" rel="nofollow - http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100067550/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
Try this stuff out. I did after seeing it in some of the threads. Quicker, easier, cheaper and more available. Although I like the smell of Tacky more.
 ------------- "Only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go." - T.S. Eliot |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/10/12 at 2:49pm
Excellent! Thanks! Will give it a try. Off to Atlanta for biz. Gonna miss a lifting session. If I coulda wrangled this the week earlier, I'd have been learning a thing or two with Bill Gray and his tutor, Ryan Vierra. Oh well... ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/14/12 at 5:25am
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Ugh. Extra advil please. 2 days of bad behavior in Atl and 12 hours in airline seats. Throwing. Pud throws working on torqueing lower body around. LWFD singles w glove. Discouraging. Remove glove gain 2 feet. LWFD doubles w and wo glove. Avgs lower than last week, but a couple accidentals to 50. Avgs lower because I was neglecting to throw at end. Funny i'd lose that. Add throw, add distance. Simply have to learn to throw w glove. Taped and spray glued as shown in the handy glove video, but this clearly needs refinement for me. Doesn't feel as secure. Maybe need to remove fingertips for more confidence in hook. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/15/12 at 4:59am
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Snow. Hammer. Throws were a joke. Little footing. No grip. Nothing anywhere near avgs. But it turned into an interesting exercise. Because things were so iffy, i had to concentrate on feel, and I began to feel the points where I destabilize myself and lose momentum. Interesting day. Shoulder rehab. Bar only snatches. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/15/12 at 7:14am
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At Gym... First hang snatches in a loooong time. NO PAIN! Woo-freakin-hoo! Hang snatch. Started with stick, then bar, then ran it up to 95 lbs. Stopped before I got foolish. Olympic snatches. 2 at 95. Light tweak on second. 90, 95, 100, 105, 110 lb single hand dumbbell snatches. Hypers. 3*3*36" box jumps. Shoulder rehab. Rehab. Rehab . It's gonna be awesome to double overhead snatch again. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/17/12 at 3:02am
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Gym Deadlift 10*140, 8*190, 8*205, 6*240, 7*275 Target at last set was 4-ish. Will add lbs to base to bring that rep count down. Circuit * 3, 30 seconds on, 30 seconds off... RDL w 135 - 12, 12, 12 Squat - 20, 18, 15 Close Grip Press w 50s - 20, 18, 15 Overhead situps (Skipped, strained stomach muscle recently). Plyos - Jumping lunges. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 1/17/12 at 4:21am
Excellent!------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/17/12 at 9:45am
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Yup. Pretty psych'd about moving dynamically again. Looking to bring some "up" back into my world. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/18/12 at 7:56am
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General Physical Preparedness... 4 hill walks pulling sleds. Core Work 4 hill sleds in out of control sled gesturing and screaming wildly Wrestling with dog ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/19/12 at 3:07am
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Gym Front Squat - 8*100, 6*135, 4*160, 4*185, 5*210 Circuit * 3 (Incline dumbbell, bent over row(s), weighted rev lunges, leg raises) 30"/30"/2:00 Plyo's * 3, 8 jumping squat w 1:00 between sets. Blowing out through more reps than expected on last set. Capacity is clearly higher than the calculated weight based on last max. Either I'm getting stronger or my math sucks. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 1/19/12 at 5:52am
Bet the dog loved it. As for item #2....video, or it didn't happen.... ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/21/12 at 8:01am
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Training - Too icy/mushy to throw... Mostly movement work...
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Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/22/12 at 5:50am
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Throwing - Hammer Mild disappointment. Tossed new light hammer. Had seen material saying "if you toss light hammer 80, you'll toss heavy hammer 60.". Well, I throw heavy 62ish so I marked out my field to 85. Guess what. On avg I throw light about 10 foot farther than heavy. :D. 70s. 71s. Guess I'm just going to have to learn to throw this thing. Doncha just love the smell of freshly crushed delusions of n00bs. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/22/12 at 7:32am
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And then an intro to basic weight training 101... Taking lessons from, of all things, a parkour trainer. I figure who would know more about movement and explosive power than one of these guys. Dude weighs maybe 170 and has much bigger lifts than I do. How to deadlift How to hang clean How to power clean How to snatch How to box jump Lots to this stuff I did not know. It will be interesting to see how much a little technique can help. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/28/12 at 6:23am
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Throwing Warmup Pud Tosses Single LWFD - out to 45. Have to remember to throw. Double LWFD - 48's on ave. couple 49s. Not staying low. Don't know where that went. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 1/29/12 at 7:15am
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Stone (16lb shot) 5 x Stepover 5 x Braemar 10 x full moves with drills in between. Got out to 34 several times. Average in high 32's. Good ones feel "connected", but always seem that I coulda put more into them. Learned to start by pushing back across rather than up. Big difference. Gym Hang Snatch - 5x3 at different weights ranging up to 135 Hang Cleans - 5x3 at weights ranging up to 175 Power Cleans - 3x1 at 175, 2x1 at 195 Box jumps - 3x6 ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/02/12 at 2:42am
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Gym Front Squat 10*135, 8*155, 6*175, 4*195, 4*220 Circuit *3: Pushup, Rows, Weighted walking lunges, lying leg lift, floor dumbbell press *Stop* Puke alert. I don't know who invented circuits, but curse his sadistic hide. Squats felt good today. For the first time in a long time everything participated - butt, core, thighs. Got carried away an broke form forward on 220s and easily pulled it back inline and up. Could have easily blown through most recent max. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/04/12 at 1:26pm
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Odden Throwing Clinic. Beautiful, warm, sunny day. Lots of NW throwers. Great time! After the 2.5 hour drive home, I can barely stand! ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 2/04/12 at 2:18pm
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I know the feeling. thank God for Hot tubs and Beer! ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/04/12 at 3:04pm
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Beer: I hit Maritime Pacific on a mission. Hot tub: You have a hot tub! I'm envious! Nice to meet you, J! Happy to throw in Puyallup. I'll send you some info on where I'm throwing at Sandpoint (Warren Magnuson park). It's one of the most perfect throwing spaces on the planet. DON'T TELL A SOUL. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: JSiau10
Date Posted: 2/04/12 at 4:46pm
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I don't need to, you just did ------------- I'm just an idiot, pretending to be smart. |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/05/12 at 6:55am
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Sore. Sore. Sore. Light hammer. My singles go 74, 75. My multis go 72, 73. Need to fix this. 5 sets of 5 winds attempting to go from slow to fast. Alternating single and doubles to feel the difference in the cast. On singles I catch early, pull hard, and get knees and hips into it. On doubles hat strong accelerating pull and lift disappears. The catch is missing, the pull seems limp and my hips and knees seem to forget their bit.. This must have something to do with coming over the top for the second wind and/or rotating shoulders back to catch that gets me out of position or off timing or off balance. Lots more winds in my future. Gym for shoulder rehab with lacrosse balls and bands and a few light hang snatches. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 2/05/12 at 4:57pm
Hey I get my Oly lifting help from goddess Wendy (figure and fitness model) and Donna P. (crossfit instructor).. Whatever works, I ain't proud. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 2/05/12 at 5:00pm
Me = jealous....sounds like it was fun. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: bigirish01
Date Posted: 2/06/12 at 3:25am
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Sundaywas a recovery day Greg.... didnt you get the memo? ------------- Jay "Big Daddy" O'Neill |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/06/12 at 6:12am
I bet it's easier for you to focus on the hips. :D Note to self: Be careful around Alan. He is way smarter than me. He picks female instructors. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/06/12 at 6:14am
I didn't do much. I swear! But seriously, obsessive compulsive training is one of my curses. My brain tries to kill me. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/07/12 at 2:48am
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Gym Warmup - dynamic stretch, jump rope, disloca, halos, goblet... Incline bench Shoulder rehab (various) Foam roll + stretch ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 2/07/12 at 10:03am
This is who gives me training advice and checks my form in the squat rack. You laugh....it's true. I swear that I am not making this up. I don't have any R-rated pictures of Donna P., who helps me out with form on my Olympic Lifts, so you'll just have to ogle Wendy. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/07/12 at 3:15pm
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Ogled as ordered, Sir! Good work on coach selection. Me? I just paid money to watch Vierra's hips. This sport is gay. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/09/12 at 2:26am
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Gym Warmup Deads ran up to 315x3 Power cleans 3x3 at 135 Circuit Hammer rotations on Caesar bench Wussed out on top end. Bad night. Stress. Excuses excuses. Did the numbers but didn't exceed the numbers. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/11/12 at 6:32am
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Throwing. LWFD. Thanks to the Odden clinic and a couple very useful threads on this board, I have a little bit better idea of how I'm supposed to be positioned and how to gauge movement.. 5 standing pud casts 5 turn and drops 5 singles - ranging from 44 to 48. 10 doubles - 49s 50s 51s and a 52. New PRs for me. Feel there is a lot more available here if I can pattern the movement and positions better. Misc: Now using a slightly shortened and narrowed trig, as mentioned here. Better taping (Odden) Better awareness of positioning (Odden and here) ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 2/11/12 at 9:18am
All good, here. Win-win. Turns and drops...love them. Hit the position. Your numbers went up, too. Life is good! ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/11/12 at 2:52pm
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Yep. Plus I video'd everything and I know enough now to see what's wrong! For instance, after watching the 52 footer a couple dozen times, I can see why it's a better throw, and I can see there's room for improvement! I have no separation at the end of the second turn - I land hips in line with shoulders and just let momentum carry it around. If I can land better, I could actually throw after the second turn. Anxious to try again next weekend! I LOVE this stuff! ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/12/12 at 7:12am
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Stone - -16 lb Warmup Glide Drills - A, bar drills, turn drills Rotational Drills - 180 turns, step ins Standing x 5 Braemarnx 5 Glide x 8. 33s and 34s. High 33 avg. MSA x 7. Everything from 27s to 33s. 30 avg. Light hang snatches 3x3 @115 Light power cleans 3x3 @205 Box jumps 3x5 Box skips 3x5 Banded kettle bell swings 3x10 @24kg ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 2/13/12 at 5:54am
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Throws AND lifting? I feel for your hip flexors...LOL
------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/13/12 at 7:03am
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Working my medialis! Trying to get that damned thing firing again. Damaged myself some time ago and my left posterior chain retired. The net is that my back has to do way too much work. Trying to bring left posterior chain back on line. Banded kettlebells are just the ticket for fixing that! Hits hams, glutes and back. The snatches and cleans are just form work. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/14/12 at 2:54am
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Gym. Ugh. I always end up pukey on Tuesdays. Wondering if I need an extra recovery day after hard workouts on Sat and Sun. I can do the same workout on Thurs and walk out of the gym with some spring. Tuesday, I'm trying to keep from retching. Front Squats - Deload week. Focusing on "tearing the floor" and getting my ass in gear. 6x135, 6x165, 6x165, 6x165, 6x165 Short Circuit - 3 x (Recline rows, walking lunges, pushups) ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/14/12 at 3:00am
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Took apart some stone videos from the weekend. Props to the creators of video editing software because frame by frame review is a fantastic way to shed your delusions about what you think you're doing. The BAD NEWS is that I NEVER rotate the landing foot to create separation at the hips in the glide, the rotation, or the Braemar. I'm just pushing off the landing foot, hips and shoulders aligned, and I sorta lift and throw. My throw from the end of rotation is particularly gruesome - my landing foot is pointed out the back as I attempted to throw!!! The GOOD NEWS is that it's easy to see plenty of room for improvement.
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Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 2/14/12 at 6:10am
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Greg, I actually stand most of my Open Stone throws, because when I glide I have a really hard time keeping a solid power position. It's slowly getting better, but still.... When I do that...stand the open stone, I actually "toe in" my back foot. Rusty Price taught me this. So my back foot...in my case, my right foot.... is not pointed out the back of the trig. Nor is it pointed directly out the side of the trig, it's actually pointed forward at an angle, semi-towards the trig. Advantage to this is that it makes it MUCH easier to get my hip around, because the knee is already going that way. DIS-advantage to it, is that it's hard on my knee. If I practice this a lot, my right knee gets sore. Might be worth a try. I am just at the point now where when I "stick the hip" with the Braemar stone, it's going farther than when I just crank back and whale on it as FAST as I can. Up until now, the stupid rock went farther if I didn't try to do any fancy business, and I just reared back and heaved the sucker. This will be an interesting year, at least with stones that sit all nice and comfy under my jaw, I will probably start to try to "do it right". ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/14/12 at 7:29am
Yeah. I can remember to get the foot around in the drills, and in slow throws. But, when I get focused on distance, things go to heck in a hand basket. Don't know how many times I'm going to have to hear "focus on the positions, not distance" before I actually internalize it. I can pick up a couple foot with a glide if I remember to push back on the heal rather than 'jump/hop'. So I'll keep the motion. I just need to give it some time and focus. I'm more keenly interested in LWFD and now Hammer, because those darned things embarrass me so badly. Now stone's making fun of me, too. And I have to have some technique, because I simply don't have the strength. Not a problem. Nothing motivates me like personal dissatisfaction. And nothing makes me more dissatisfied than awareness of my performance flaws. So, I'm most happy when unhappy. It's leverage for continuing improvement. ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 2/14/12 at 11:22am
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ACTUALLY..... if you go look at a bunch of shotput gliders, like the old 70's videos on YouTube, you'll notice that their back foot isn't so much rotating in the middle of the ring. It's the rotational throwers that have to get that sort of action. Brian Oldfield glide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB7ShzETOVA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB7ShzETOVA His center foot IS moving, but nothing like a rotational thrower. John Brenner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUhBp0H6wNk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUhBp0H6wNk Four incredible gliders.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxKuqpxmKKk&feature=related" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxKuqpxmKKk&feature=related So I wouldn't worry too much about getting rotation on that foot when gliding the shot. Push off the heel, land with the foot pointing out the side of the trig and just jam your hip out there as hard as you can. At least...that's what I'm doing!... all 33 feet of MY glides! :lol: ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Greg York
Date Posted: 2/14/12 at 12:51pm
I got it gruesome, I tell ya... Here's what rotation looks like. Lookit that foot! I think it's stuck! lol. And here's glide... Coming off the heel...  ------------- Watch for falling rocks! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 2/15/12 at 5:01am
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Hhmmm, yeah, not so good, pushing off the heel. OK, *that* you oughtta do something about... ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |