Interview with Harrison Bailey III
(2/10/10)
Here is Harrison Bailey III. I think this is one of the most
informative interviews yet. The guy has done so much in the games and
touched a lot of people. I don't know Harrison very well, I learned a
lot here about him. If you have been in the games any time at all you
know about the man. He is legend. One of the great throwers ever in
the sport and very well liked. Harrison had to cross a barrier in this
sport and I wanted to know about it. The man was gracious enough to
talk about it and eloquent in his answers. I think you will enjoy him
very much, so here you are
Let’s talk about your name first, who are you named
after and talk about the pride in that some.
I am named after my father & grandfather. To of
the best men I have ever known. I can't imagine what type of father or
man I would be without them. It is truly amazing to know that you were
loved so deeply. My great grandfather was believed to be an Irish
sailor but I don't know any details. That's were the "Bailey" came
from.
How old are you?
37 on 3/23/10
Where were you born?
South Bronx, NYC
Where do you live now?
Williams Township, Pa. (Just south
of Easton, Pa)
How did you end up there?
I grew up in Lakewood, NJ and left
for college in 1991. Went to college in Easton, Pa. (Lafayette). Never
really left.
What do you drive?
Dodge Ram 1500 - Wouldn't drive
anything else, except maybe a 2500.
What do you do for a living?
Assistant Principal at a high school
for the past 9 years.
How did you get into that?
I originally wanted to go into
public speaking. I wanted to travel to colleges and talk to teams and
college organizations about rape, sexual harassment and the male image
in America. Fortunately, I was a decent football player, and played a
year of Arena 1 football for the Conneticut Coyotes. After that, I knew
I needed grad school and got a job at a teacher training school while
going to Lehigh University. At the end of getting my Masters of Ed. I
decided I loved working with kids and wanted to be an administrator. I
truly believe that when we are lucky enough to recognize what God means
for us to do, you can't walk away from it.
Tell us about your education?
BA - Anthropology & Sociology at
Lafayette College
M. Ed - Education (Spec. Ed.) at
Lehigh University
Principalship Cert. at Lehigh
University
Tell me about your kids?
Love them!!!! HB4 is as smart as a
whip. He is 5 but says things that make you think he is 50.
Torin James is almost 3. He is my
bull in a china shop. He loves to get a rise out of you and then smiles
in a way to melt your heart. They are going to be quite the pair.
Actually, we have kept it under wraps but we are expecting a third. I
would love to have a girl but as long as he/she is healthy, that is all I
need. I just hope I am half the father my dad was.
Talk about your wife and how you met
her?
She is a damn saint. We met in grad
school and the school we taught at. She hooked me by drinking beers
and smoking a cigar or two. Ofcourse, all that ended when we got
hitched!!! She is like half my height but we are an incredible match.
Any woman that can put up with my work and HG schedule should be given a
parade.
As a kid growing up, what was your
first job?
I set up and broke down party rooms
in a banquet house. To this day I can't stand to touch other people's
food.
When you grew up as a kid, what
sports did you play?
Soccer & Wrestling. A million
different backyard sports. I didn't play organized football until 9th
grade.
Did you throw in school?
Yes, I threw discus and Jav. in
HS. I even ran high hurdles. It was awesome to watch other runners
faces as they watched me take a throw in the discus, run over to the
hurdles, race, and run back to the discus. Senior year I was 215lbs
running high hurdles. I threw 176ft in the discus in HS and 176.6ft in
college. I have never regretted playing football but I always wonder
how far I would have thrown if I had been able to concentrate on it.
How did you get into weight lifting
and when?
Religiously, not until college. It
really all started freshman year with Big Paul Ferency as my throws
coach. He had me going hard core, old school lifting. I was squatting,
cleaning, benching, and throwing 3x's a week. Hey, when you are 18 you
can do that stuff. Let's put it this way, from 11/1991 to 4/1992 I
went from 219lbs running a 4.79 forty (electronic eye) to 237lbs running
a 4.65. He got me strong. I have learned to listen to my body over
the years and made some adaptations, but all in all I still use his
appoach to lifting.
What was your first Highland Game
and when was that?
Long Island , NY - 8/1997 - It only
had 3 events: stone, caber, & w/h
Who was at that game?
Not many. I know that it was my
first intro to the pretty boy of the games - Roy Bogue.
What made you decide to try and
compete at a game?
I knew Paul did the games and after
Arena football I needed to keep competing. I asked Paul to train me
and the rest was history. I owe him a great deal for my success. I also
had the chance to throw with Ryan Vierra and Francis Brebner when they
stayed with Paul. I was just a kid and they were bigger legends than I
even realized.
All athletes have reservations
regarding the first time or two competing, but you crossed a barrier
that most of our athletes don’t. Talk about that and what
that was like.
Very
good question. Yes, I'm the first and only black guy to throw on the
pro circuit. Honestly, that has not been a very big issue for me. I
have met guys from all over world and I have had very few incidents, in
the games. If I am going to be honest, my mother always taught me that I
was going to need to be at my best to get ahead. So, I trained as hard
as I could so that games wanted me there, regardless of their personal
politics. My only specific issue occurred when I was an am. I got
uninvited to the North South Challenge my first year. It was going to
be held in New Orleans and I was told that K. Cummings was worried about
racial problems from Civil War reenactors. Jim Pauli told me during a
competition at Ligoneer and I think I hit 3 PR's that day. I guess I
could complain that I haven't competed in many games in the south but
hey, neither have many other northerners. Most of the southern pros have
treated me just fine, except that damn racist KO. (Just kidding, for
all you sensitive types.)
How has
that changed now as the years have gone on in the sport?
I think
people's attitudes regarding diversity has changed quite a bit. Look at
the strides Shannon Hartnett and all the women after her have made. At
the end of the day, we are all dreamers in pursuit of the big throws.
Regardless of race, sex, religion, etc., we can all appreciate a world
record. Honestly, I am at a point in my life that if guys are still
stuck on that nonsense I feel sorry for them. Evolve already!!!
You have
seen the Highland Games change a lot over the years, what changes do you
like and not like?
I think the
Nasga board is one of the most progressive tools created in during my
throwing career. Hats off to K. Pauli. I also think the work that Ryan
V. has put in to help organize the US and now World Championships has
been monumental.
What is
your favorite event?
That has
changed from season to season. I would probably say the hwd or sheaf.
Yes, I said sheaf.
What is a
common mistake you see people make in that event?
WFD - They
don't spend enough time practicing the first turn. If you don't set the
ball in the right orbit and your not landing in a drive position, the
throw is over before you start. Sheaf - Back swing, back swing , back
swing.
Who were
the first people to influence and coach you in the sport?
Paul
Ferency for both. I also got to throw with Ryan V. and Francis B.
while was in college.
Talk some
about throwing games as an amateur, what games you did and where.
Ligoneer,
Alexandria, P-Town, Carlisle, Richmond, Long Island, Kansas &
Elizabethtown to name a few.
I honestly
owe all of those AD's a lot. They let me get my foot in the door and
when I was unknown.
What were
your favorite amateur games?
Probably
P-town. It was my first national championship comp. and what a venue.
Every AM should try and experience that one. Alexandria was awesome
also. East Coast Championships!!!
Talk about
some of the pro games you have done and your favorites.
Sacramento
- Ususally the first big games of the year.
Alaska -
Absolutely amazing people & great low key games.
Durness,
Scotland - Most beautiful games
Ligoneer -
My first pro games
Halkirk,
Scotland - My "this is what scotland is about" games
Edinburgh,
Scotland - Best throwing field venue
Fergus -
Consistantly one of the best international comps
Rio, Brazil
- Once in a lifetime
Cortland -
Best low key games around
Portland -
The old days at Portland Brewing
Detroit -
Most thrower friendly games
Bethlehem -
Hometown games, National Championship, Throw far or go home games, NEED
I SAY MORE!!!
Who do you
enjoy competing with and why?
Barron Boys
- Guys who love the games & just great fellas
Brock - win
or lose great laughs
Vierra - An
unmatched competitor, clutch thrower
Betz - I
always watch him and say "how the hell did he do that???"
Zolk - Work
horse and solid competior
Talk about
some of the throws, games and moments you are most proud of.
Am - I
broke 4 am records at Elizabethtown one day and Roy B posted it on
Nasga. That felt great.
Pro - New
Hampshire right after 9-11. I won and they played the National Anthem.
It gave me chills.
Celtic 2001 or 2002 - breaking Paul F. WFH record and then breaking the
world record. Paul was there to congratulate me.
Why don’t
you post more on the NASGA board and what would you change there?
I post when
I have something useful to say. I wish more guys took advantage of
asking throwing questions on the board. It is an incredible resource.
Maybe add a section were people could add video clips. I am glad the
old arguments seemed to have died (am vs pro, stand vs spin, clean vs
dirty). I am all for free speech but these issues tend to turn personal
and end up unproductive.
Talk about
training and your philosophy in throwing?
From April
through July, I try to throw 4 days a week. Not more than 2 events in a
session. At this stage I work on quality over quantity but I put in
good number of reps. I use a lot of video. If I had to do it all over
again, I would have used video from the start. I have been able to
correct so many technique flaws by taking 3-4 throws, watching myself on
video, and then throwing again. I can always find something to fix. I
am also infamous for changing up styles. For example, I have changed:
Stone - 3x, WFD - 3x, Ham - 2x, Sheaf - 2x, WFH - 3x. These haven't
always been monumental changes but I believe you need to figure out what
works for you.
What is
your favorite drill you do and why do you think it helps you?
In the off
season I do a lot of drive drills and position drills. Ryan V once told
me, "Position creates distance, not speed." I have always believed
that. I don't care how strong or fast you are, if you can't get into
the position to use it, who cares!
Tell us
about some of the injuries you had as an athlete.
Separated
shoulder, torn ham string, torn groin, torn achilles, torn bicep (Those
were the severe ones)
After the
Achilles injury, talk about the mental aspect of coming back into the
sport.
Being a
competitive athlete is either in your genes or it's not. I knew I would
come back. Hell, I competed 6 months after surgery and threw well.
The mental part was knowing how hard to push without additional injury.
The worst part was that it forced me into bad habits. Because I
couldn't drive off my right foot/toes, I started heel turning. That bad
habit killed my throws for a few years and still creeps back in when I
get careless or tired. I should have listened to my doc and wife and
laid off it for the year. But, I am as much of a games whore as one can
be.
What
impresses you now in the sport?
The level
of competition has gone through the roof in the past few years. There
were always 3-4 guys at a time that were incredible but now there are a
dozen guys in the sport that can hand you your jock at any games.
Who makes
you laugh at games now?
Brock,
Chaffin, & KO.
Funniest
Time: ( Enumclaw 2 yrs ago) We all walk into a Baskin Robbins, after
dinner and Chaffin accepts the challenge to try and eat an entire ice
cream cake at the counter. After the dozen of us all place our bets,
the workers and owner get in on the action and then every customer that
walks in gets involved. We end up with 20 - 30 people packed into this
little store cheering on Chaffin as he deperately try to keep himself
from puking. Absolutely hilarious.
When I mention these athletes names,
just write a few words about them you think of when you see it.
Ryan; Hands down the greatest
thrower of all time
Overfelt; racist, little people
lover (Ha,ha), one of the most improved throwers on the circuit
C. Smith; strong guy with a
stronger opinion (but I respect him for his honesty)
Gundmunndson; Best stone thrower I
have ever seen
Pulcinella; Extremely strong guy,
if he had been able to put a few healthy seasons together he would have
done awesome
Betz; Great guy, class act, hell of
a thrower
Brock; Incredible technician &
greatest hustler in the games
What fires
you up now days in the games?
Figuring
out techniques in events that have killed me for years (caber, stand.
wob)
What
training philosophy do you follow in the gym?
Weight
room: Late Nov - March Reps: 10(Nov) down to 2 & 1(March) Week
Routine: Day 1-lift Day 2-Drill Day 3-Rest Repeat
Lifts -
Pull (High pull (hang/floor/box), Squat (Back & Zerch), Deads
(floor/box)
I use bands
almost every set until I want to go test heavy. I don't go into my
weight room after mid April. This program really works for me.
What do you
like to do outside of the games?
Hanging
with the family, house projects, wood work, hiking and getting into
sailing.
What other
hobbies do you have?
Collect old tools
What is your favorite food?
Split
b/w pizza and a good steak
What
supplements do you take?
A lot of
vitamins, fish oil, protein shakes, & cell drive
What do you
drink with a meal at home?
Green Iced
tea
What beer
do you like?
Guiness
& Moosehead
Do you mow
your own grass and what kind of mower do you have?
John Deere
Rider (2 acres)
Do you like
to garden?
That is the
wifes thing but there is nothing like fresh veg. from your own yard.
Are you a
Democrat or Republican?
Absolute
Democrat. You know I'm loving this Obama thing, on sooooo many levels!
Are you
into Astrology? What sign are you?
No. Aries
Are you a
religious man, and if so, what do you practice?
It might
sound nutty but I consider myself very spiritual but not very
religious. Definition: I love, praise and respect god but don't get
into all the ceremonial church stuff.
What kind
of music do you like?
Mostly R
& B, some Hip Hop & funk, old Rat Pack stuff, and some old rock
when I train (Kiss, ACDC)
Where do
you like to go to eat?
5 Guys
(Burgers) and Don Pablo's for Mexican. Pizza is my common downfall.
What does
your wife think is your best body part?
Good
question??????
What do you
like to watch on TV?
Sit coms -
Modern Family; MSNBC - Politics; Dramas - Brothers & Sisters
Are you a
western movie or sci fi person? Tell a favorite.
Actually
more of a comedy & action guy but if I had to pick, sci fi.
What are
the goals for this year?
Learn how
to throw the hammer again!!!!!
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