support belt and hammer
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Topic: support belt and hammer
Posted By: Alan H
Subject: support belt and hammer
Date Posted: 6/15/11 at 5:51am
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I finally went and bought a weighlifting belt. I got the narrowest one I could find, and honestly I probably won't wear it very much when I lift. But this question isn't about lifting. Does anybody here wear a support belt when they throw hammer? Why or why not? I know that Dan McKim straps up for WOB, I watchin Dan put it on at Costa Mesa, but I just haven't looked around and paid attention to whether anybody wears a belt for hammer. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
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Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/15/11 at 6:10am
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No, it would be too restrictive to wear for hammer.
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Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 6/15/11 at 6:16am
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Look at the Rehband or a similar (Kono etc.) back support. More or less just an elbow sleeve for your lower back. I really like mine. Keeps you warm, gives a little support and is not restrictive at all. ------------- Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 6/15/11 at 6:16am
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That's what I was thinking, Craig, which is one reason why I got a really narrow one. I figured it was worth a try anyway, the belt was only $20 and my lower back is affecting my hammer distances. But after winding a couple of times with the belt on I sorta started to re-think the whole idea... Thus, the question.
------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 6/15/11 at 6:21am
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I bought a 4-inch wide sewn cordura Valeo with a velcro closure. Well, it can't hurt to have it in the "arsenal"! The simplest Rehband looks pretty good, Andrew....Hmm.. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 6/15/11 at 6:52am
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The nice part would be that you could use the 4" Valeo over the Rehband for really big stuff like those Farmers walks etc. The only problem I had with mine was when I put a regular PL belt over top of it to do axle presses. Very supportive, but couldn't breathe. Look at the Kono as well, I think it's a lot less expensive and Kono stuff is good. ------------- Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!! |
Posted By: Mr. Natural
Date Posted: 6/15/11 at 8:27am
| I started wearing a belt for the hammers after I tore an abdominal muscle. I also wear it for the caber and WOB, and sometimes the 56. It may be more psychological than anything, but I feel like it helps to have something for my midsection to push against. |
Posted By: AlDargie
Date Posted: 6/15/11 at 9:11am
Something to consider. Pulled something this past weekend with the Hhammer from the side back area to the front. Awesome bruising now and still hurts to roll out of bed and cough. ------------- Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy. - Outlaw Josey Wales |
Mr. Natural wrote:Posted By: ROB EVANS
Date Posted: 6/15/11 at 9:19am
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what about PL squat briefs? some come over your abdomen. no jokes please :) ------------- If Spencer Tyler is the gamma bomb of explosion, you and I are like single-serving flan cups in his lunchbox. Pasty, Jiggly, Delicious, but otherwise not very explosive. DUNCAN MCCALLUM |
Posted By: verewulf
Date Posted: 6/15/11 at 9:37am
| I wear a basic work type back support for most events.Very flexible but gives just a bit of support. |
Posted By: Daniel McKim
Date Posted: 6/15/11 at 3:41pm
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A foam belt is not restrictive at all, at least for me. I wear mine for everthing but stones. I'd guess it's 90% mental (too many back injuries), and I don't think I need it anymore, but again, it's my security blanket and I'm not willing to let go. For sure though, when I first hurt my back, it allowed me to keep throwing. If you like it and it helps you mentally and physically, then by all means wear it!
------------- http://www.believethrower.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.believethrower.com |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/16/11 at 12:30am
No way you could compete in a pair of todays type briefs, and if you wanted them to stay up you'd have to belt them anyway. I did; however, compete a full season in single ply power pants when I tore my hip flexor. It worked. ------------- |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/16/11 at 12:31am
Why not for the stones?
Agreed. ------------- |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 6/16/11 at 5:23am
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What Craig said. I was figuring that if there was one event not to wear it for, it'd be hammer because of the huge amount of core movement. WOB (standing), Caber, sheaf all seemed straightforward....should be able to wear it fine. Now that I think of it, Dan Williams strapped up for spinning WOB at Costa Mesa, too. And Harrison had a narrow strap up high....Harrison, somebody had said you'd hurt somethin'...that so? Here's Rusty @ Woodland, heavy hammer - got a belt on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_7a0ICa1To&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eAGabgSZBw Rusty practicing the 28...belt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoBe0oPguGk&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoBe0oPguGk&feature=relat ed Rusty practicing 56 wfd ...belt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_7a0ICa1To&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_7a0ICa1To&feature=relat ed Ironmind cover with Larry Brock http://www.ironmind.com/ironmind/opencms/Articles/2009/Jul/Larry_Brock_Wins_Grandfather_Mountain_Highland_Games.html - http://www.ironmind.com/ironmind/opencms/Articles/2009/Jul/L arry_Brock_Wins_Grandfather_Mountain_Highland_Games.html Gregor Edmonds with caber http://www.flickr.com/photos/jammach_uk/4804563844/ - http://www.flickr.com/photos/jammach_uk/4804563844/ In case you want to know what brand Gregor wears... http://www.flickr.com/photos/jammach_uk/4803938267/in/photostream/ - http://www.flickr.com/photos/jammach_uk/4803938267/in/photos tream/ OK, what is this that Gregor has on? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jammach_uk/4804570306/in/photostream/ - http://www.flickr.com/photos/jammach_uk/4804570306/in/photos tream/ Awesome picture of Harrison... http://tucsoncitizen.com/morgue/files/2008/11/l101439-2.jpg - http://tucsoncitizen.com/morgue/files/2008/11/l101439-2.jpg And another...hey, if you were a kid at HBIII's school, would you give your principal a load of trash mouth?  http://cmsimg.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Site=BL&Date=20100515&Category=PHOTOS01&ArtNo=5150803&Ref=PH&Item=6&Maxw=940&Maxh=500&q=100 - http://cmsimg.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl =1&Site=BL&Date=20100515&Category=PHOTOS01&A rtNo=5150803&Ref=PH&Item=6&Maxw=940&Maxh=500 &q=100 CONCLUSION: 1. If I'd just looked around online I'd have found my answer. 2. No pics of Mike P or Ryan V or Sean B that I saw, belted up. SO..some do, some don't. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 6/16/11 at 5:51am
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Greg H. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/2727291114_fd8f68811b.jpg - http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/2727291114_fd8f68811b.jp g Aaron N @ Ironmind (not sure this'll load for everybody) on Braemar http://www.ironmind.com/ironmind/export/sites/default/ironmind/neighbour-braemar_lg.jpg - http://www.ironmind.com/ironmind/export/sites/default/ironmi nd/neighbour-braemar_lg.jpg OK, that's enough! Some do, some don't. Some do, ...sometimes, and don't, other times. I'd be interested in knowing what the big back support is that Gregor is wearing, though. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/16/11 at 6:40am
It's a Rehband belt with his weight belt over it. ------------- |
Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 6/16/11 at 6:59am
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Alan one thing to keep in mind is there is some difference between the old Rehband stuff (Blue) and the new rehband stuff (Grey). The one Greggor is wearing is an old one. The old ones are about 2mm thicker so lots of guys love them. They are not made anymore and the only place I know to find them is Jackals Gym (the Gillingham bros.). the one I have is the Grey one and for me it is fine I couldn't imagine needing the thicker one for what I do... but then again I can't DL 700lbs or throw a LWFD 85+ feet. Maybe at that point the 2mm would matter. ------------- Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!! |
Posted By: Daniel McKim
Date Posted: 6/16/11 at 10:42am
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Not sure on the stones, Craig. I just didn't like it, so I don't wear it. Now, I think it's more pyschological than anything ... habits. ------------- http://www.believethrower.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.believethrower.com |
Posted By: Mr. Natural
Date Posted: 6/16/11 at 10:46am
| A bunch of gliders (shot) wear belts; I've never seen a spinner with one. Makes sense I guess. |
Posted By: ROB EVANS
Date Posted: 6/16/11 at 11:00am
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I am not an expert by any means but back in my PL days the gear was extremely tight. I was wondering if maybe you buy something a little less restrictive a couple of sizes larger. but i see your point about having to belt it any way. ------------- If Spencer Tyler is the gamma bomb of explosion, you and I are like single-serving flan cups in his lunchbox. Pasty, Jiggly, Delicious, but otherwise not very explosive. DUNCAN MCCALLUM |
Posted By: ROB EVANS
Date Posted: 6/16/11 at 11:04am
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http://www.inzernet.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=PWR_PNT - http://www.inzernet.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=PWR_PNT ------------- If Spencer Tyler is the gamma bomb of explosion, you and I are like single-serving flan cups in his lunchbox. Pasty, Jiggly, Delicious, but otherwise not very explosive. DUNCAN MCCALLUM |
Posted By: Old Dude
Date Posted: 6/16/11 at 12:07pm
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I generally loosen my belt when I throw the hammers. Can't get that good Highlands Hula going when I'm all laced up. ------------- Over Fork Over |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 6/18/11 at 1:53pm
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OK, I just bought a Tommy Kono waist wrap. It's about 1/3rd the price of the Rehband. It doesn't look like it's constructed in as sophisticated a manner as the Rehband, but the neoprene is pretty darned thick. I won't have it for this weekend, but that's OK. It looks like it's lot higher quality than the stuff marketed at Big 5, which was all aimed at "get rid of your belly fat" rather than back support. Last night after work I went out and strapped up with the 4 inch belt and did 6 hammer throws. It was fine, I even popped out two that were well over 80 feet, so that's good. I'll be wearing it tomorrow for hammer and weights and probably caber as well. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 6/20/11 at 4:54am
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I wore the belt a lot on Sunday and it was a big help. Sure, my back got tired by the end of the day, but big surprise. I had no significant pain, nor any loss of strength. I took it off for sheaf, but wore it for everything else. Excellent!
------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: thegnome
Date Posted: 6/22/11 at 2:22am
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Glad it worked out! ------------- Andrew G Vada a bordo CAZZO!!!! |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 6/25/11 at 8:08am
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The Tommy Kono waist band arrived, and I've actually got it on right now, just to see what it's like. I absolutely would wear this for any and all events. It doesn't grab you like a weightlifting belt does, but just that little bit extra support is nice.... and no real compromise in range of motion that I can feel. Just my two cents and I know nothing, but if I had some sort of abdominal strain this would be a huge help. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: AlDargie
Date Posted: 6/26/11 at 10:53am
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Alan keep me posted as I am thinking about some sort of
core wrap. 2 weeks post comp and I still have some massive bruising from that pull/rip. ------------- Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy. - Outlaw Josey Wales |
Posted By: mike landrich
Date Posted: 6/27/11 at 10:58am
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I have a Mueller neoprene belt from that evil giant Wal-mart that works well.
It similar to the Rehband and cost right around $20. I like it for HG, as it gives a little compression and a support, but allows movement. ------------- "Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and win by experience"-Mark Twain |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/28/11 at 12:24am
 When I tore both obliques last year I wore something similar, along with wrapping over top. ------------- |
Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 6/28/11 at 8:53am
I have to say that this thing is only $28....$32 with shipping and all that stuff and it's totally worth it. You're not out a mint if you don't actually like it. It's simple, literally just a thick neoprene sleeve for your gut with a velcro closure. There's a lot of "give". However, it's MUCH wider than a standard weight belt, so it supports most of your abdomen. The ONLY downside I can see to wearing this this on Game Day is that it's probably going to be pretty hot on a really warm day. Seriously sweaty in 102 heat at Pleasanton....bleech. But otherwise, I see no real drawbacks. If you're a little leery about strapping on a thick weight belt, try this. See Craigs post, too. Makes total sense to me. ------------- Alan Hebert Geezer-In-Training |
Posted By: AlDargie
Date Posted: 6/28/11 at 10:19am
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Thanks Alan, Mike, and Craig. I have a Mueller knee brace
that I have used for about 5 years and my knee loves it. Ordered the waist wrap and hopefully it will help. The HHammer has a wicked pull on the midsection when you are going long. I am assuming for best results, ie tighter wrap and keeping more heat on the muscle, that it is worn under the shirt? ------------- Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy. - Outlaw Josey Wales |
Posted By: C. Smith
Date Posted: 6/29/11 at 12:19am
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Yup.
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Posted By: Andy Vincent
Date Posted: 7/01/11 at 12:14am
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Equiblock and neoprene will let you compete through just about any injury short of a compound fracture. ------------- |
Posted By: BigScot50
Date Posted: 7/03/11 at 3:27pm
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Looked up that Equi-block. That is some heavy duty rub! I guess if it can get a racehorse going, I am sure that it would definitely more than work on humans. Lots of people that have bought it for their horses also use it, say it works great, very hot. ------------- "He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Samuel Johnson (english poet) |
Posted By: mike landrich
Date Posted: 7/06/11 at 2:12pm
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Another good equine rub is BIGELOIL. Its available at Tractor Supply Stores ------------- "Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and win by experience"-Mark Twain |
Posted By: Andy Vincent
Date Posted: 7/10/11 at 2:15pm
It's the nuclear weapons of liniments...guaranteed to work, but probably shouldn't be your first choice.  ------------- |
Posted By: BigScot50
Date Posted: 7/10/11 at 2:31pm
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That's funny. ------------- "He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Samuel Johnson (english poet) |