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Topic: Hammer Help
Posted By: KiltBill
Subject: Hammer Help
Date Posted: 6/25/10 at 12:33pm

First time I have ever video taped myself throwing. Please help me with critique. The Hammer has always alluded me.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl3DLDLiKis - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl3DLDLiKis




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Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 6/26/10 at 1:46am
The corn has come up since I was at your spread, makes it look like your throwing in the Highland Field of dreams.

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Mule

Sportkilt
AST Sport Supplements


Posted By: Khruel
Date Posted: 6/26/10 at 2:04am
I've not sure we should give you advice on throwing further, because you will be sending those hammers into the cornfield. 

If you don't mind smashing corn you should relax your arms after 1.  On 2 and 3 your arms are bent and tight instead of long and relaxed.  Having your arms bent shortens your radius which has less potential for force development than a large radius.  It will feel awkward at first trying to accelerate the hammer with long arms, but stick with it and you will definitely add distance to your throw.


Posted By: KiltBill
Date Posted: 6/26/10 at 2:50am
Thanks for the hammer input, I tend to hold my breath the entire
throw as well as tighten up. Will give this a go tomorrow.
Myles the voices said "if you invite Vierre they will come". Remember
your bicep from throwing the shot over the sheaf tower..


Posted By: Silverback
Date Posted: 6/26/10 at 6:26am
It was my forearm first as I had never thrown a shot and had it in my finger tips.  I did not realize it was tearing my forearm, it turned purple all the way up my arm.  Did not stop me though.  I have bled much more since then, wait till you see all my new scars.  I am now set up that you can see a scar on me from any direction. 

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Mule

Sportkilt
AST Sport Supplements


Posted By: crazysaladboy
Date Posted: 6/28/10 at 4:34am
From the looks of it you have a problem hitting the ground on your final wind and that is why you suck your arms in also.  Cast it slightly farther out in front of you and that will not only help your orbit, but will help your arms to stay relaxed and long also. 

make sure to remember to counter with your hips and extend behind your head on the final turn.  These are just a few things to work on.


Posted By: KiltBill
Date Posted: 6/28/10 at 6:36am
Thanks. Will give it a go.


Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 6/29/10 at 11:49am
You know what turned a huge corner for me in hammer?

I sent Mike Pockoski a PM, and he wrote back.  I really like how Mike throws hammer, so I just asked him questions and being the class dude that he is, he wrote back.  Flat-out truth.


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Alan Hebert

Geezer-In-Training


Posted By: KiltBill
Date Posted: 6/30/10 at 12:30am

WOW, and the flat out truth would be? Alan I have had some great PM's about my Hammer.

1). rotate my shoulders more.

2). stay long, I tend to pull in at the end.

3). wear a bag over my head. I do not see how that one will help.

4). cast higher.

5). need more bar speed.



Posted By: Alan H
Date Posted: 7/02/10 at 10:59am
Flat out truth was that Mike has a way of expressing what he's trying to say that sunk into my head. I've done a workshop with Ryan V. and I came away with two good things, which I used to set a new PR but I didn't radically change how I throw.  But Mike got me to radically change how I throw.

OK, I will paraphrase.  There's the usual "relax" and "chest up".

What Mike said was that he practiced moving his weight from side to side....like so much that essentially ALL his weight was on one foot, and then the other. 

What we spend a lot of time doing is getting a really strong base. We don't want to fall over or lose our balance so we spread our feet wide apart and really get a good anchor, a really solid stance. Then, when we try to throw, we wiggle our hips back and forth a little bit and pretend that we're cranking the hammer around that way. That sure looks like what you are doing and it's exactly what I did for three years.

NOT.

We must break out of the "stable stance" concept.  We are not  locking our bodies in a stable configuration and swinging a hammer around our heads. NO.  Instead, because of what Mike said...we will pull our feet closer together so that we move our bodies OUT of that locked stance. We will RADICALLY rock our weight from one side to the other.  The way Mike put it was that he thinks about his hips being attached to a piston wheel on a huge steam engine, ramming them back and forth.  None of this "wiggle back and forth" your WHOLE BODY has to move from side to side, RADICALLY.

Look up, chest up, push the knees out and "get down"...attach the hips to that steam engine wheel and rock/ram your weight from one side to the other. Your shoulders are relaxed and damn, but if that hammer doesn't start moving around, almost on it's own, it seems.

That's the visual that got me to totally change how I throw hammer.


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Alan Hebert

Geezer-In-Training


Posted By: Old Dude
Date Posted: 7/02/10 at 1:50pm
Here's the visual for those of us lacking imagination.




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