I don't know if anyone has measured force while throwing wob. I'm not sure how you would do it. One could use a side view and graduated background to determine the speed of the implement over a measured time frame I suppose, but ultimatley I think the results would be skewed and useless to someone who did not possess the exact same techinique and levers.

Several guys have spent considerable time working w/ a tendo unit to monitor bar speed for various reasons. The first to come to mind are Bert Sorin & John Gallagher. However, I can't think of anyone who has successfully made a correlation between a weight moved @ a given speed in the gym "guaranteeing" a specific height in wob.

All in all there's not going to be a straightforward answer to strength = distance/hieght. In this sport there aren't quick answers for anyone. we all find the limits of what we can do naturally and have to sweat and bleed on an individual basis to overcome them.

One suggestion would be to start a traing log - record your throws & hopefully some video. Show your intent to grow and help others & I'm sure you'll get all the feedback you could ask for.

My singles at 220in the Power Snatch about 5-7 days out were a forecast for the WOB back about 10 years ago. I was a regular at 16'6"-17' and would often attempt 17'6".  Two weeks out I would be in the 350 range for a single in the power clean. So timing and speed of the certain lift can be a predictor for vertical force out-put for HG events-sheaf and caber as well. But....... you need to perform under stress....

There is also the mental aspect-no heighting etc at the lower heights. You have to train at the lower heights as well. Steve Pucinella was great at just going over the bar and conserving, your thinking he's never gonna go 17' (often did), my phisophy was still is to blow everyone over as I just need to find a grove early. I know I have 10-12 max efforts in me before I breakdown. So prepare in training. You should also look at your traing throws as a predictor......

These days, 10 years later my training throws about a week out with a 40 lb (I throw mostly masters) over 17'-17'6 are a good predictor. If I can make the hts with a very slow and shallow draw of the weight between the legs, Im ready for all the lower hts 16-18'. I'll take 1-3 at max effort and know If I'm in 19-20' range and just need to excute day of.

verewulf wrote: I guess what I am saying is if you can snatch x amount one handed you should be able to clear at a certain height with form and technical ability not being a factor?

A couple of points come to mind:

1) Any such correlation is going to be rather individual, as differences in height, arm length, leg length, etc. and how they affect a particular lift vs. the WOB are going to vary to some extent with each person, and possibly quite dramatically between people who are very tall vs. rather short.  This will be especially true for lifts like squats (which I know was not your example).  Taller, longer-limbed individuals are generally going to perform much better in events like the WOB at a given level of strength than someone who is much shorter.  Assuming reasonable lifting techinique, there will also likely be a higher correlation between lifts like the hang snatch, the dumbbell snatch, or the hang/power clean with a high catch than slower lifts, simply because the weights and ROM involved are somewhat closer.

2) Technique etc., both for the WOB and the lift in question, cannot be discounted, as this is going to have a significant effect on the result. 

I think the best you might be able to come up with is something along the lines of, "Most people of average size will need to power snatch xx in order to clear xx in the WOB, assuming acceptable technique in both the throw and the lift. Your mileage may vary."

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brandell wrote: Hummm Can't throw the WOB well?  Seems someone is lacking midiclorians.

Well, something has to explain guys like this.  He looks like a high school swimmer, and yet...

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+ 1 bert.

I'm not as strong or heavy as I was 5 years ago , but things like the weight throws are just as good or better.

Somethings like hammer are not