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    Posted: 10/27/08 at 6:10am

I recently got the chance to practice with the 56 lb WFD implement I will using at an upcoming game.  The implement was taller with less chain than my usual Old Celt implement I use to practice with at home.  I lost 3 to 4 feet on my distance and noticed a huge difference in my 2 spins--having to fight the weight much more than usual.  The implement was made by Tom Blythe.  (Note: fine implement, just different, said for reference).

Has anyone had this problem before with advice on how to fix the problem?  I didn't have the opportunity to borrow the weight to practice with more to experiment.

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this may take a while to read but...I felt motivated.

I think with the shorter chains you have to get more aggressive. You will prob. want to secure your grip as best as possible - hook grip or glove with plenty of tacky.

The jolt is more severe with a shorter chain when you land your  spins so staying smooth and your shoulders balanced  over your hips will be key.

Try to minimize the amount of time you spend with your feet in the air. You should cast the weight hard but really try to keep the feet low to the ground so you can spend more time using them to push hard into the throw.

I wouldn't cast the weight very high. Try to maximize the horizontal caste power. Throw the caste more forward than up (just over chest height instead of head height). The way to do this is to keep the chain at least 6-12 inches away from your butt as the weight swings behind you right before the first turn

also, try to land your first spin with your left bicep touching your chest. this will help keep you torqued and will help you land your feet in the right space.

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Great advice, I was hoping someone else had encountered this problem.  Thank you very much.  I am going to print this out and take it with me to the games.

You are right in describing it as a "jolt" cause thats what it was, no doubt.

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Length of weight & chain alter timing.  Basically, the farther the weight is from you the longer you need to be patient.  So, you can be a little more aggressive with a short chain.  Early in my career I practiced with all types of weights (size, length, weight, handle, etc..) so there were no surprises.  Spend the majority of your time working on technique, re. of the weight.  The more consistent your tech. the better. 
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Originally posted by hbaileyIII hbaileyIII wrote:

Length of weight & chain alter timing.  Basically, the farther the weight is from you the longer you need to be patient.  So, you can be a little more aggressive with a short chain.  

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Thanks HB3. At this point in my training (just over 1 year in), I focus A LOT on proper technique and the quest to get it down (love that challenge of the sport). That is what was weird about the new implement. I had my form down to what I would call consistent and fundamentally ok and smooth with the same pull points, foot position etc and then all of a sudden I am fighting the weight, my balance, taking a shuffle step between spins (just ugly). The only thing different in the equation was the implement. I will have to buy a diff type to vary the feel/timing like you did.

Once you all corrected your form/timing, did your #s come back to the norm?
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