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    Posted: 1/11/07 at 4:32am

Is anyone currently hosting  games for youths in the midwest?  My friend's kid, who is 14 and 100 lb. soaking wet, really enjoys throwing and is looking for venues.  As he can't even lift the 56, though, I don't believe it would be appropriate for him to be on the field at a large game or one with a significant audience. 

If nobody is currently hosting these games, has anybody ever, or at least put together guidelines for hosting kids? 

Finally, is there any interest in the community for a youth game or 2?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Porkyfries Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 1/11/07 at 5:24am
Last year I tried to organize a high school division at Saline. The problem
with it lack of interest and concerns that other adults had regarding
injuries and liability. In terms of guidelines I believe the plan we were
going to use was have the following events:

16# stone (that was for high school aged athletes 16+. If you have
younger individuals in mind i would say go with the 12 or 14 pound
stone)

28 weight for distance

16# hammer

28# or 42# WOB

Possible 16# sheaf

Again this was the plan for high school athletes with an age requirement
of 16 years old. If someone wants to throw and is younger and lighter you
may want to go with lighter implements in all of those events. You may
want to even eliminate the WOB because of the strain it puts on the body.
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Good to see Games trying to cultivate young throwers.  "Get them young and raise them the way you like them!"  Bob Ham, AD at the Bellingham, WA, Games does a class for highschoolers (which, of course, won't help Mid-Westerners.)  He also does not get that big a turn-out but he lumps them together in a flight with the Women.  This works out great because he has the kids use the Women's implements.  Those weights seem to be a good starting point for young'uns!
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Originally posted by wallyworld wallyworld wrote:

Good to see Games trying to cultivate young throwers.  "Get them young and raise them the way you like them!" 

Good point Wally.  I'll get a competent thrower to help me with this.

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Dennis, I've never heard of any game with a jr. division anywhere near the midwest, and, as a young thrower myself, believe me I've looked. I have talked to John Moore a few times though, and he said that if there is enough interest Ancient Athletics might add a jr. (21 and under) division to a few of their games this year.
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I know that this year at the USAD meeting the critea for a JR. divsion are going to be looked at and talked about,  Based on the Canadian one.  In St louis we have several high schools that have track people who want to make the crossover.  And to have a set of guide lines in place will make it easy to add this group.

Plus One of our main sponcers, Logan College of bone cracking, is adding the caber to its Schools field day.  Which is going to be interesting. 

So the Long and Short of it is,  We are going to try and build a feeder system to help the sport grow in the United States.

 

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I guess the closest thing we have to a junior division is when my kids all throw. We have had young 'un's throw at Warrensburg, but only if I know them and they have proven competent.

Emily started at 12  and has been invited to the Women's World championships for the last two years as a 14 and now 15 year old. She would have never had an opportunity to throw if AD's had not given her a chance.

Isaac started at 15.  At 18, he's somewhere in the top 20  ranked Am's with a body weight of 175.

Nathan started at 17 and at 20 won the 190 Championships.

Getting them young has been a great experience for us! Now we'll see if Levi and Flint want to throw!

Yeah, those are all my kids. Same wife. Yes, there are eight.
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Dennis, I was teaching my son to throw this past summer.  He just turned 14.

My thought was to use the women's ruling for weights.  14# LWD and 28# HWD/WoB.  I've got all wieghts, except for a 42.  I've got stock steel to make it, just haven't had a chance.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ak thrower Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 1/12/07 at 5:19pm

Daryl ,,, I think it's awesome what you've done for and with your kids. You should be proud !!

I would like to help if there is a way to get the young kids started  , we have a bunch of kids here in Alaska that throw for fun at the games ,,, we made some 7 lbs and 14 lbs weights for them to throw ,both for distance and for height . Granted these kids are between 5 -10 , but they have a great time and who knows ,, maybe they will grow up throwing .

My throwing partners kids throw with us and have a great time , so I look for them to throw someday . 

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Way back in the last millenium, I used to make light-weight implements for the kids at the Enumclaw Games.  Unfortunatly, when the group that ran our kids events (the Cascade Council of Celtic Clans) quit, they took all of that good stuff with them!!!
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Originally posted by shawnf shawnf wrote:

My thought was to use the women's ruling for weights.  14# LWD and 28# HWD/WoB.

Excellent choice!!  Teenage boys can handle the Women's implements well enuf'.

At the Bellingham (WA) Games, Bob Ham runs a "High School" class.  Its for high schoolers (naturally) from age 14 to age 18.  He usually comes up with a half dozen competitors who otherwise probably would not have competed!  I think that its a great training ground!!!
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I concur.  I'll have to look into hosting something.  Grows the sport and gives the kids access to the high class of individuals who throw.
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I have been looking for information on Jr athletics. My son is almost 12 and very interested in getting involved. However, most games have childrens games that are geared more towards younger kids rather than kids my son's age.
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Originally posted by katmills2005 katmills2005 wrote:

I have been looking for information on Jr athletics. My son is almost 12 and very interested in getting involved. However, most games have childrens games that are geared more towards younger kids rather than kids my son's age.

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Scotland Ct in Oct has a great tradition of having a youth 13-17 class and in recent years the great Wayne Hill(second great Wayne to Ad the games)added a mini youth games for 7-13 yr old's..was very well recieved and the AD makes each athlete take the kids under there wings(sort of a nice mentoring program)and not one complained or hesitated to help
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