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Good stuff...approach this with an OPEN mind and this will
make sense !

" Having never done box squats or elastic ball squats I have to
play devil's advocate and ask how does landing on an elastic
ball promote one's ability to reverse directions with a large
weight?"

GREAT QUESTION KURT...O.K. RECENT EMG STUDIES
DONE ON THE HAMSTRINGS. DURING THE SQUAT..TELL
US THAT YOU HAVE TO BREAK 90-DGREE'S BYE 2-INCHES
OR SO TO ACTIVATE THEM....NO PROBLEM WITH
CONVENTIONAL SQUATTING...WE WANT TO ACTIVATE THIS
MUSCLE EVEN "MORE" AND THIS POSTURE ALLOWS FOR
THAT AND REALLY ACTIVATES THE GLUTES AS WELL.
THE TECHNIQUE USED...WE USE A TON OF VARIETIES
HOWEVER THE BASIC ONE IS TOO SQUAT AND WHEN YOU
FEEL THE BALL ESSENTAILLY " FREE-FALL" AND THIS IS
ALLOWS THE HIP-FLEXORS AND HAMMIES TO BECOME
THE THE PRIME MOVERS ON THE UP OR CONCENTRIC
MOVEMENT...THE RATE OF GRAVITY IS 9.8 METERS PER-
SECOND ...THUS "ACTIVIATING" THE HIP-FLEXORS ARE
WHAT WE ARE AFTER AND USING THIS TYPE OF
EXERCISE...!

MODIFIED HOOK SQUATS...WE CAN INCREASE THIS "RATE"
OF FALLING A COUPLE OF WAYS...WT-HOOK RELEASERS
(MADE A SET OF THESE IN THE MID-70'S...THEY ARE STILL
IN SERVICE) AND ADDING BAND TENSION AS WELL...I HAD
ALMOST A YELLING MATCH WITH MR. SIMMONS  OVER
CONVENTIONAL BOX SQUATS A FEW YEARS BACK AND I
SEE THAT THEY ARE ADVOCATING USING A HASSOCK
INSTEAD OF JUST USING A WOODEN BENCH WHICH
CREATES HUGE SHEAR FORCES ON THE SPINE...THE
BALL UNLOADS THE SPINE AND PUTS THE LOAD WHERE
YOU WANT IT...!

Tim...good questions:

" The harder you come down on the ball the faster and higher
you'll bounce back up but how is that working you any harder "
?

"...you actually answered your own question...if you hold a
basketball at you waist and drop it..it falls at the rate of gravity-
9.8 mps...if your throw the ball down you increase the
R.O.G.....we have measured these negative loads with a Tendo
unit and since you have an INCREASED load you have to
OVERCOME that...therefore increasing the rate of
reversibility...!


Tim...As a side note, I don't think anyone is handling 1,000 lbs
in the manner you're speaking of...?

These are all predicted max's...if you can front squat 300-
lbs...this should enable a 400-lb back squat which in turn
allows for a SAFETY SQUAT of 552 lbs....again these are all
PREDICTED...so you can see how this tpe of squatting can go
UP real quickly !!!

We go through about 6-8 phases or blocks of training and this
is the ECCENTRIC phase...I may put some of the pics up on
ACCELERATED Eccentrics...some really COOL stuff ...GREAT
discussion !!!
Have a GREAT Day !
Rob " Coach Mac " Mac Kay
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OK, Coach, I don't think this is quite what you said, but tell me if I might  just be guessing this right anyway:  on the eccentric motion, when you feel the ball you drop, thus relaxing the posterior chain.  When you hit bottom, you accelerate upwards, getting a big stretch-shorten cycle response.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim Pinkerton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 1/04/06 at 3:30pm

I still don't think I'm getting it, sorry.  Why use the ball then.  I can see your argument for the ball vs. the box but if you want to get to 2 inches below parellel why can't you get there with out the ball.  To me it just kind of seems like cheating when you get to bounce off the ball.  I would seem that using bands or weight releasers would get you the same effect as using an a weight you can't handle and a bounce off the ball.  You would be increasing the force on the way down and the way up with out increasing it in the hole as well as accelerating the eccentric.

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Wayne...I NEED a ghost writer...what you said "succintly" is
correct !

Tim...you need to UNFLEX the hip flexors to activate the
hammies...if you RELAXED these in a convnetiaonal squat you
would probably need a spotter (grin) to scoop you off the
pavement !

TO give you some more things to ponder... the best
percentages for ECCENTRIC   are yet to be determined...we
have had up to 160% (yes you read that correctly)...most of the
time just over 100% on the down portion....the best
percentages for power keep dropping...the classic study says
58% as being the best marrige on the conversion from the
negative to POSITIVE contractions...we have had GREAT
results with percents in the high 30's to 40's....then we use
bungee's to KICK IN at 135-degree's to work into the HIGH 80
% of max....and I thought I didn't need math in high school...the
throwers all got calculators for Xmas....
Have a GREAT Day !
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I guess what you're saying is this is some way to overload the hamstrings while either relaxing or overloading (you mention both) the glutes at the same time. 

Seems like a good adjustable ham/glute bench would be a much easier/safer way to overload the hams and plus you can vary the joint angles more.
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I'm not about to endorse this exercise, because I don't have any experience with it, but it looks like it's got some things going for it:  It's an explosive exercise, because it's taking advantage of the stretch-shorten reflex, so you get an overload response from the entire posterior chain.  It also requires coordinating the posterior chain the way it's used in squatting/jumping.  I think it can be done safely, if you start with easily handled weights and do it in a cage.

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Ok this comment now seems way off topic but I found my long lost shoes, after 12years, they were in my mommies attic the whole time.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pat Hellier Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 1/17/06 at 3:00pm

Lovely looking shoes you have there, the blue matches your eyes. I have a pair given to me, as always I am loking to save some dosh here and there. Great purchase they were too, I feel much more stable squatting and snatching in them. Use them for lifting all the time.

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