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    Posted: 3/18/16 at 7:40pm
Hi everyone!  I'm brand new to this and am having problems nailing the foot work for WFD.  Right now I'm only concerned with a one spin since that's proving difficult enough.  I've never been great with fast foot work.  Any tips, videos, tutorials, drills come to mind?  I had a wonderful local show me, and I'm practicing at home.  One day I thought I had it, but now I don't ):  

Right now I'm looking for a pitchfork to practice the sheaf, and I was wondering HOW do you get it to go the direction you want?  I haven't looked that much into technique for this yet since I don't have the implements yet.

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Youtube is your friend, search names like Dan McKim, Stew Squatch, Matthew Vincent
Here are some videos to get you started:

WFD Breakdown from a John Odden clinic here in the NW: part one, part two

Matt Vincent WFD video, or this video which has Stone and WFD, or his Sheaf video

Another Good Sheaf video from Duncan McCallum


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I did see the Matt Vincent Going Deep one, it really helped me realize there was definitely something wrong, and after looking at other videos I think the problem is I'm taking an extra step with the back foot before shifting the weight over to my front foot and starting the sprint.  But... I see on these videos that some people face the trig to begin and others face perpendicular to the trig.  Does it matter as long as your feet stay in the box?
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If you're just doing one turn, find what is comfortable. I've seen people face the trig and face 3 o'clock. Find what is comfortable. But you'll need to move past that.

Drills.
Cast and drop: to practice your first turn.
Place a mark on the ground, and stand on it with your left foot (assuming you're right-handed). Let the weight cast a long orbit, and when it feels like you can't hold your feet in place any longer, switch them, trying to replace your right foot exactly where your left foot was, with your body now facing 3 o'clock, and your left foot toward the trig. 

One turns: to stay low, patient, and relaxed. 
Stand facing 3 o'clock. Start to move the weight a little bit, bringing it behind you to your right side. With little momentum, sit back and let the weight cast a wide orbit. When your feet feel like they can't hold thei place anymore, lift them, and sprint toward the trig. You are not replacing your left foot with your right foot this time. You are sprinting toward the trig, driving toward it with your right foot.

Here's a good video for the above two drills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=541qQLT8ytg

Line drills: to gain linear momentum and stay relaxed, controlled, long, and low.
Find or paint a line. Cast the weight (the first turn, described above), and then switch into the sprint, also described above. But don't go too fast. Stay long, low, and controlled, with the weight having a slightly lower orbit at 6 o'clock than 12 o'clock. Try to turn about five times, staying on the line the whole time. This will be very difficult, but you will learn to feel it and stay relaxed. Be slow, controlled, and relaxed. Stay low.

Good luck, and throw bombs.
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One helpful tip is to video yourself and compare that video to some of the videos mentioned above 
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I have been throwing for a very short time and have struggled with this also, the thing that seemed to have helped me alot was just getting a weight and spinning with it in my hand like 5 times in row.  my issue was that i just was not comfortable with that much weight on the end of my arm and just wasn't used to it. So my brain was telling my feet to do weird things and take extra steps. 
after about 3 sessions of just spinning with the weight and getting used to it my one turn has gotten way better and my two turn is coming around. 

I missed it above, but description of the line drill 
"Line drills: to gain linear momentum and stay relaxed, controlled, long, and low.
Find or paint a line. Cast the weight (the first turn, described above), and then switch into the sprint, also described above. But don't go too fast. Stay long, low, and controlled, with the weight having a slightly lower orbit at 6 o'clock than 12 o'clock. Try to turn about five times, staying on the line the whole time. This will be very difficult, but you will learn to feel it and stay relaxed. Be slow, controlled, and relaxed. Stay low." 

is the same thing i was doing with out knowing that it was a drill .. lol..
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Originally posted by Scruftdog Scruftdog wrote:

 
I missed it above, but description of the line drill 
"Line drills: to gain linear momentum and stay relaxed, controlled, long, and low.
Find or paint a line. Cast the weight (the first turn, described above), and then switch into the sprint, also described above. But don't go too fast. Stay long, low, and controlled, with the weight having a slightly lower orbit at 6 o'clock than 12 o'clock. Try to turn about five times, staying on the line the whole time. This will be very difficult, but you will learn to feel it and stay relaxed. Be slow, controlled, and relaxed. Stay low." 

is the same thing i was doing with out knowing that it was a drill .. lol..

+1--similar technique as what is in Pockoskis' "Contrarian Approach to Highland Games" DVD.  Another cue that has helped me is "cast and let it fall": let the weight do some of the work.  If you're a right-handed thrower, note that your left side of your body (including the foot) are important parts of the turns.
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Thanks for this, I am working on my WFD (both heavy and light) as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Larry Satchwell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 7/12/17 at 1:52pm
I posted some slo-mo videos of the Chicago Games, it might help you see their technique, https://youtu.be/MMd5y3F024w
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Were these the A's from the 2017 GMHG? I was throwing in the B's, and it was an interesting day...
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