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Wait, now I am crotchety because I suggest beer?  Hey if you like the MWC, pay your entry and come and compete, if you don't, there are many other games.  I have never seen a game Kevin was involved that I did not enjoy.  So I go to more of them.  If YOU don't like it, then don't go again.  That simple.  If the guy is making more money than you can tolerate, and he should make some bread on all the effort and time put in, don't support it.  That simple.  How about this response, hey Kevin, had a great time at the last game, thanks for putting all that work in for free to help us have a fun day.  That is all the guy did, just try and make it fun for you so you could escape this world we live in for a few hours of throwing bliss with your peers and you reward him with this?  WTF?

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Originally posted by C. Smith C. Smith wrote:

Originally posted by bigirish01 bigirish01 wrote:

 I was called crotchety, pissy, and Kevin Rogers wants to quit.

To be fair, I called everyone in this thread crotchety.  

And I said nothing to the validity of the arguments, just that Kevin should be paid for running the MWC.  Every AD should be paid for running a game imo.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote brandell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 1/30/15 at 8:17am
Originally posted by Silverback Silverback wrote:

Wait, now I am crotchety because I suggest beer?  Hey if you like the MWC, pay your entry and come and compete, if you don't, there are many other games.  I have never seen a game Kevin was involved that I did not enjoy.  So I go to more of them.  If YOU don't like it, then don't go again.  That simple.  If the guy is making more money than you can tolerate, and he should make some bread on all the effort and time put in, don't support it.  That simple.  How about this response, hey Kevin, had a great time at the last game, thanks for putting all that work in for free to help us have a fun day.  That is all the guy did, just try and make it fun for you so you could escape this world we live in for a few hours of throwing bliss with your peers and you reward him with this?  WTF?


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Jay-

Its true that I want to quit. I want to quit because of people like you. You are a dishonest bully.

You didn't just ask a question about our MWC finances, you made an accusation - an error filled accusation I should add. Those kind of things are not easy for me to hear. Its hard to be criticized for my volunteer work by a couple guys who didn't even care enough to attend the event.

I'll admit it .. I just don't trust you and I don't trust Buck Tatum either. Neither one of you are honest or trustworthy. You have some petty ax to grind about Dave Garman but you are willing to slam me and my work over it. 

Buck didn't go to Scotland for the recent MWC because Dave was gonna be there. Well, sorry pal.

And you tried to make some big deal about no going to MWC Scotland because Dave was gonna be involved. Well, sorry Jay ... he was there and he had fun too.

I do have a hard time with guys like you sucking all the fun out of our events. It makes me re-think if we should really be a Not For Profit organization because of the petty nature of complaints that we would have to put up with. I may warn Scruggs and our attorney about my recent revelations about your spiteful accusations and suggest we not pursue the NFP ... but instead apply for a corporate structure that allows us more freedom to tell you guys to piss off.

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Kevin,
Im not bullying you or anyone else. And Im never dishonest. You Started this thread and I replied. I didn't call for you to step down. I just asked that you be transparent, which is what you said you were doing in the original post.
People call me a bully because dont have an issue being honest and calling people out. That's fine. How You react to that speaks volumes.
Im sorry if my responding to the thread has made you question my support for the MWC. I enjoyed the games when I was able to attend. I didn't attend MWC Scotland because we had just purchased a new house.

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Jay

It has been brought to my attention that you have gone from pretending to be nice to Kevin and attempting to explain yourself on here; to immediately posting a "Thin Skinned Little Bitch and Trolls" comment on Facebook.

I won't bother copying your Facebook post here - but congratulations - Clap you have just confirmed everything folk needed to know about you in the dishonesty department.




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Most athletes attend Highland Games for the love of throwing and being with their fellow athletes, and have no knowledge of the how's and why's it takes financially to promote a highland game. I have bragged for 18 years that the highland athletes are the best group in the world. Some have changed my opinion. For those interested, and suggested to me, I did offer my expertise to assist in a couple areas that I felt could be improved. I had been communicating with Rogers and Scruggs on a personal level before rogers felt it necessary to start this thread. Now, Jay O'Neil and myself have come under some interesting criticism even being called dishonest and untrustworthy, a hater, close to slanderous comments with other snide statements. I will tell you that Jay O'Neil, a former Navy Corpsman assigned to a Marine combat unit And now a PA serving veterans is one of the most straight forward and honest men, Father and husband I know, whose is dedicated to the positive promotion of the games as a competitor, AD and with a radio show called 'Fork Talk' with Charlie. They don't just show up to throw and drink beer, they promote.

I have been accused of not being honest and not being trustworthy by rogers also. My law enforcement career of 32 years with experience serving as president and other officer positions for state and national organizations, and by helping to setting up local and state organizations for over 40 agencies across the nation with by-laws and non profit status, offers me insight that most do not have when operating a large organizations. No worries, both of us consider the sources and loose no sleep over it.

Rogers found it necessary to birth this thread for reason know only to him, hence the uninformed and ugly comments that followed..

Mark McVey made a very well said and accurate post regarding the advantages of becoming Non-profit and financial openness.

I think the origin and content of this thread directs reflects upon the leadership of Rogers. Scruggs stepping down after many years of faithful service is beyond reproach. His successor well, it is apparent there are those of us who disagree as do some that do not. It seems as that the SMAI is to remain a LLC with Billy and Rogers in the main roles are the only officers. As rogers pointed out there are no meetings, votes and no elections, no by laws. I just like thing to work right and mayhaps a great deal could be improved if the non profit is applied for is either accomplish or removed from the masters web site stating it is, as it has been for several years. That being said, I am through with this thread. My Grad da taught me a long time ago ...... son you canna reason with unreasonable folks, no matter how hard you try. Hate you rogers? absolutely not, ..... lost all respect for you, but hate no.
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Originally posted by Hilander3131 Hilander3131 wrote:

Most athletes attend Highland Games for the love of throwing and being with their fellow athletes, and have no knowledge of the how's and why's it takes financially to promote a highland game. I have bragged for 18 years that the highland athletes are the best group in the world. Some have changed my opinion. For those interested, and suggested to me, I did offer my expertise to assist in a couple areas that I felt could be improved. I had been communicating with Rogers and Scruggs on a personal level before rogers felt it necessary to start this thread. Now, Jay O'Neil and myself have come under some interesting criticism even being called dishonest and untrustworthy, a hater, close to slanderous comments with other snide statements. I will tell you that Jay O'Neil, a former Navy Corpsman assigned to a Marine combat unit And now a PA serving veterans is one of the most straight forward and honest men, Father and husband I know, whose is dedicated to the positive promotion of the games as a competitor, AD and with a radio show called 'Fork Talk' with Charlie. They don't just show up to throw and drink beer, they promote.

I have been accused of not being honest and not being trustworthy by rogers also. My law enforcement career of 32 years with experience serving as president and other officer positions for state and national organizations, and by helping to setting up local and state organizations for over 40 agencies across the nation with by-laws and non profit status, offers me insight that most do not have when operating a large organizations. No worries, both of us consider the sources and loose no sleep over it.    
 


Rogers found it necessary to birth this thread for reason know only to him, hence the uninformed and ugly comments that followed..

Mark McVey made a very well said and accurate post regarding the advantages of becoming Non-profit and financial openness.

I think the origin and content of this thread directs reflects upon the leadership of Rogers. Scruggs stepping down after many years of faithful service is beyond reproach. His successor well, it is apparent there are those of us who disagree as do some that do not. It seems as that the SMAI is to remain a LLC with Billy and Rogers in the main roles are the only officers. As rogers pointed out there are no meetings, votes and no elections, no by laws. I just like thing to work right and mayhaps a great deal could be improved if the non profit is applied for is either accomplish or removed from the masters web site stating it is, as it has been for several years. That being said, I am through with this thread. My Grad da taught me a long time ago ...... son you canna reason with unreasonable folks, no matter how hard you try. Hate you rogers? absolutely not, ..... lost all respect for you, but hate no.
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SO IS THAT YOUR TWINKIE DEFENSE?  Kevin put the post up-so hes to blame for a few people putting up negative comments? or put a post up and your fair game for the uncalled  responses??
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Jay and Buck,

What you've shown me and others by this ridiculous attempt to accuse then claim victim status, is about the clearest illustration of complete passive aggressive wimped-out pissiness it has been my displeasure to EVER see.

You were NOT simply asking anything.  You were attempting to smear Kevin Rodgers because you don't have the balls to come right out and deal with your bent dick issues with Garman.  We ALL know that.

You're making demands on what is up on the Master's website?  Who the FFFFF are you?  Not your site--not your LLC.  Who the FFFFF are you to demand anything about the organization at present or in the future?

And what I REALLY find as an example of your TOTAL lack of integrity, is after you (Buck) and the girlish bully, rip away in your pissy little manner, you DARE to throw up your defense against the correct retribution by reminding us that Jay was a pecker-checker in the Navy.  What the FFFFF?  Like that is some kind of surrogate for integrity?  Remember--he's the same princess who threatened me physically JUST because I had a difference of opinion with him. In MY Navy, those of us who saw combat actually hold our shipmates to a HIGHER standard of integrity.  His service doesn't give him a pass for anything--neither does mine.

Oh and Bigirlish, If you want to call me out personally--have the balls to do it to my face and not via facebook, " All the douce bags like Detroit petefag and her posse jumped me".

Now--go grab your bitchy little ball and go home.  Your bully, passive aggressive, douchebaggery has come to it's natural end.  You've proven to everyone your total lack of honor.


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LOL.....  so the trolling continues... now you are just trolling my FB page...  
Gerri...dont bother ill post it for you...
"I understand why people have stopped posting on the NASGA  Highland Games forum board...... Thin skinned little bitches frequented by trolls" 
When I posted this I was referring to you and Pete.
and if you guys read all the posts you would see that a number of others agree.... 
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Bigirlish--one of your 'friends' sent that to me.  Now piss off you douche.
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Gerry the fact that you were elected into the SMAI Hall of Fame speaks volumes as to why your feathers are ruffled.

Pete. Way to keep it classy as always.
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