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    Posted: 1/25/13 at 3:01pm
So who has the heaviest over head press in the Highland games?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dWood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 1/25/13 at 4:35pm
Vincent now,craigor smith before that off top of my head
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James Bullock?
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Word.  Whiteboard.  Not sure why James doesn't post.
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Would love to get in on this but dont have capabilities of posting or taking vids right now...
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I'm sure I red that Lucas venta does a 200k push press!!
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Originally posted by stormer stormer wrote:

I'm sure I red that Lucas venta does a 200k push press!!
 
really?
 
That's not something I would have expected. I'm not saying it's impossible but seeing him in person at Pleasanton, at 6'5 280lbs he's a bit on the smaller side. Just doesn't look like he's got that much behind him. Very impressive if this is correct. For the record, we're talking about Lucas and not Sebastian? I wouldn't doubt if Sebastian could go 200k for a couple reps, lol. .
 

 
 
EDIT: I feel the need to clarify. 6'5 280 is not small, however, that is smallER for a guy that height. Guys that height pushing that kind of weight are usually in the 300-320s. Just an observation.
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Fun fact: saw Oldfield do 315 for 10 push press 79' fast fast fast
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From a recent article by Oldfield himself: 

With Bruce Jenner, I ran on grass without spikes for a 9.8 dash. That was faster than I ever thought I could be. I was running twice a week and lifting twice a week. I began to believe I could qualify not only for the Olympic weight lifting squad, but also for the sprint team. In the overhead press, I was lifting 450 for three reps.

In addition, the following is a personal e-mail to me from Rob Suelflohn (Oldfield's training partner during the 1980's) from early 2008.


hi Peter.,
 
first let me say that Brian was the most explosive athlete I have ever seen, so what worked for him is not a measure for a normal person, because he was NOT normal.....
He used to come into the weight room and yell at everyone saying ya don't have to be so strong......it only weighs 16lbs!!!  a guy would put up 550 on the bench and he would laugh because it didn't matter to him.....and he knew it wouldn't make the guy a better thrower...I NEVER SAW HIM DO LARGE NUMBERS.......I saw lots of throwers lift very heavy weights saw 750 sq, 550 bench 400 clean all the time from lots of different throwers ,but never saw Brian do anything that heavy ever....when he did lift heavy it was very very sloppy , lifting...bouncing and literally throwing the weights not just lifting them...saw a 450 bench for a triple bounced each rep...saw a 550 squat that was maybe parallel if we were really in a good mood....kinda hopped with the weights but didn't leave the ground, and he did them fast not resetting after each rep , just bang bang bang...think he did 5 or 6....saw him do 375 push jerk...not at all like an olympic version but more of a shot put really, actually surprised the bar didn't leave his hands.
 
Brian had something else that nobody else had....his muscles were very sinewy , ripped and shredded , not like a body builder but like a lumberjack....I never see this kind of muscle in anyone except very strong people that work with their body , such as lumberjacks, and farmers, I believe he could have had a very big squat if he wanted it, he was just put together in such a way that there was no ceiling ...but he only lifted in such a way so as to be going all out all the time for speed and throwing motion.
another interesting thing is this...one day he came out to throw , we were all throwing already and he grabs my shot and walks into the ring , no warm up, no stretching , no nothing, and he still is wearing his flip flops!!!! he goes thru the ring at top speed and throws the thing 69 feet!!! in flip flops....and as he did this throw you could see his weight transfer all the way thru the cement and his feet were gripping the cement....stuff like this you don't see in throwing shoes ...the feet were his primary weapon , they had their balance all the way into the earth...really amazing to see...
 
hope this helps, let me know if you have any thoughts
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Originally posted by Pingleton Pingleton wrote:

From a recent article by Oldfield himself: 

 In the overhead press, I was lifting 450 for three reps.

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Craig, 

I am just presenting what he wrote, and did not feel like adding any commentary. But I have heard from others that Oldfield had a very big Push Press, although I do not recall the exact number, if one was even mentioned. I do believe it was his best lift, relatively speaking, and I understand he believed it was one of the most important for a shot putter. I will copy another old post below fwiw, juist since we are on the topic:

Topic: "Strongman Training...OLDFIELD"
    Posted: 09/11/07 at 8:25am

Another post from "70 Footer" copied from The Ring (let me know if this gets excessive).  "70 Footer" is actually Rob Suelflohn, a training partner and friend of Oldfield's who was a very good rotational shot putter himself (achieving at least 68'1" back in 1985 and perhaps 70 feet at some point). 

Again, I am just posting this for the purpose of getting comments and generating discussion.  I have personally done virtually none of this type of training (and it shows) and I am not sure I would sacrifice too many pulling/squatting sessions to do this type of training instead, but it would seem to be a good form of supplementary training or a way to inject additional variety into a program.  It would certainly seem to be even more relevant to HG than to T&F throwers given the heavier implements and wider range of events in the HG.  I believe KO recently mentioned something about getting back his "farmboy strength".

I usually did Olympic lifting during my training days , but also did some powerlifting , I don't think there is a big difference for a thrower if they are done with explosiveness in mind. 
Regarding the subject of strongman training , lifting sandbags, throwing tires, logs, etc....I think it has some merit for the following reason....everyday at practice was none other than Brian Oldfield ,and after practice, we would go to the local gym and lift a few times a week , and really Brian was not that strong!!! he benched 450ish , squated 550ish , could push press alot , but while some guys were putting 800lbs on the squat bar , or benching 550...he just couldn't do that. BUT he had another type of strength , it is a sinewy fiberous strength that you only see in lumberjacks, and post hole diggers !!!! he had this kind of strength and I noticed it from day one , that while he could not bench as much as some he had this very noticable strongman kind of strength running all through him right down to his toes....I don't think he worked at this development , I think it was natural to him...But like I said , I have seen this type of strength in others but not in shot putters , only in guys up in a tree with a chainsaw , and you just know that there is something special about this type of strength , so for that reason I think that strongman or DINOSAUER training as it is called has an enormous benefit to throwers. Liting and throwing sandbags, walking distances with heavy things, off balance things, , tires, sand, boulders, and logs ...I think these things develop that kind of strength and directly benefit a shot putter. 

Rob

 


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