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AlDargie
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Topic: Pulling heightPosted: 3/12/12 at 10:55am |
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Since straining tendons etc in my right arm, I am unable to curl, limited overhead press, and power / hang cleans. I think I can do high pulls, what is the optimum height to shoot for? Would there be a height difference if the pulls are done from the floor or the hang? Thank you in advance.
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For snatch high pulls, I always try for chest high. Clean high pulls belly button high. YMMV.
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Posted: 3/12/12 at 11:12pm |
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Thanks Rick
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Pulls done properly should never involve the arms. Whether from floor or hang. Start with hips, toes and shrug violently. Now grant it your arms will bend slightly to accommodate the rise in the bar..
This should be easy on your strain done properly.. Also by focusing on just the pull, it has helped me keep my arm straight in my weight throws.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SvyPlv-X08&feature=related |
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Posted: 3/12/12 at 11:33pm |
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Thanks Gene. I hurt it on the lowering phase of a clean weeks ago. I can pull, just binds/pinches between the in the area between the inner and outer part of the elbow on the catch phase of the lift.
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Posted: 3/13/12 at 1:00am |
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Don't worry about high. Worry about fast.
You can pull an upright row high. A fast power shrug will still do more for your throwing.
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Gene....that's a great video!!! I always try to pull as high as the waistline of my shorts. I did high pulls trying to pull high almost to nipple height but that caused me to pull my arm in every time I would throw and killed my lifting technique not to mention giving me some major tendonitis in my bicep!!! That's why I drop my weights under control but a drop back to the platform none the less. For hang clean/snatches I use boxes although most of the training is from the floor for me and my athletes anyways. I learned it at the start of my lifting from my coach and forgot it when I had to train in a commercial gym!!! It was reinforced to me when, thanks to Mike Baab, I was able to visit his old NFL strength coach Dave "Redman" Redding when he was with the Chargers. He told me if his guys to a hang clean for a set of 5 its clean....drop..pick it back up and set up again...clean it...drop it and so on!!! Al Vermiel with the Bulls did the same thing when I visited their facility.
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Curious - why does the video insist on an open mouth?
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He's trying to catch flys..
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Great insight and description, Gene. "Shrugging violently" is something I never think about, but now that you mention it, it totally makes sense. Would you say that when the shrug part of the pull is neglected, then the bar drifts out in front a bit? It seems that I'm all too often fighting against the pull and trying pull it backwards and up into me. I'm guessing this is caused by the bar drifting too far out in front on the pull, giving it more of a circular travel pattern? (I'm not sure that makes any sense or not, but I'd love to hear your thoughts). Thanks, bud!
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Posted: 3/15/12 at 8:46am |
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Why do you think those heavy shrugs you were doing last year helped you hit big cleans.
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I never considered the correlation to better cleans, but man, that makes sense. Now, I've got to make up for lost time. I think that's what I had hoped they would do, but I didn't figure they worked for me -- makes sense. Sean, would you suggest I do varied shrugs on days I do cleans or on a separate day? Perhaps a few days after a cleans session?
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I would experiment and do them in between sets of cleans for awhile or do them right after cleans.
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[QUOTE=chirolifter]Pulls done properly should never involve the arms. Whether from floor or hang. Start with hips, toes and shrug violently. Now grant it your arms will bend slightly to accommodate the rise in the bar..
This should be easy on your strain done properly.. Also by focusing on just the pull, it has helped me keep my arm straight in my weight throws.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SvyPlv-X08&feature=related That might be one of the better instructional videos out there. Clean pulls seem really directly applicable to what we do. |
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