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Topic: for the weight room junkiesPosted: 8/04/11 at 4:36am |
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how many of you are experienced programmers? I'm trying to develop a routine that is (obviously) better than mine, however, I'm struggling with the "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" phrase right now. Nevermind how many times I throw/week, calories or recovery. I know what my recovery is so I know what I can handle. Current routine here, and yes, it is working very well, but I believe there is always something better out there. ----------------- Monday: power = work up to a heavy single, then drop to 80-90% for 4 triples Tuesday: assistance + oly, varied rep scheme, doubles & triples for oly, 5-8 reps for assitance stuff thanks for everyone's help |
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Posted: 8/04/11 at 4:36am |
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I guess this should have gone in the training section, meh.. mr. smith, could you move it for me plz?
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Posted: 8/04/11 at 10:27am |
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This during the season or no?
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Posted: 8/04/11 at 10:50am |
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I don't compete as often as the others quite yet so I'm not sure if I even have an in-season or an off season. I only compete every 6 weeks or so, with the exception of pleasanton and minnesota.. If I were competing 12+ times per year, there's no way I could recover for a games. So, with that said, it would be a higher level athlete's offseason, but for me it works currently. hope that makes sense. |
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Posted: 8/04/11 at 10:42pm |
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To me power=speed (lighter and faster) vs strength (heavy
and grind it out) day. What makes Mon different from Thurs? What percentage ranges are you lifting on your other 2 days? You can use the same in season vs out but should be using less weight moving faster while in season (spring, summer, fall). If it were me, I would have another day or 2 between the Mon and Tues workout as you are pushing and pulling the same muscle groups back to back. This would bury me |
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Posted: 8/05/11 at 4:57am |
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I'd get advice from a powerlifter who throws on occasion vs. throwers per se.
You don't need all of that for throwing. This: "Tuesday: assistance + oly, varied rep scheme, doubles & triples for oly, 5-8 reps for assitance stuff push press CGBP pullups rows hang cleans hip snatch" ...is insanity. I will say this, though: Find your off-season, or your off-season will find you. |
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Posted: 8/05/11 at 5:22am |
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Thanks for the input Al, I had the same thoughts as well. However, I'm trying to let my weight training be assistance to my throwing, therefore throwing will take precedence. If I move tuesday to wednesday, then I'll have to move thursday to friday. That will then trash my big saturday throwing session. I will definitely give it some thought though. In regards to monday being different from thursday: monday I will work up to probably 90% of my max, then drop down to 80-90% of that # for triples. Thursday is all speed work with bands, so I will hover around 50% of my max for speed. Once I get a power factor I'll only go heavy enough to still be within 1m/s. Josh, I'm not a volume whore like I used to be. I rarely do more than 3 sets of anything. This tuesday workout would take me maybe an hour and 15-20 minutes, at probably 2 mins between sets. I wouuld hit snatches and hang cleans first. Then push press supersetting with pullups and finish off with cgbp and rows supersetted together. I appreciate the input fellas. I agree re: finding my off-season. I'm definitely going to be doing that this year and changing my training around next season.
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Posted: 8/09/11 at 3:40am |
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Chad Aichs is a good example. He replied to me once on FB about programming my PL with HG. He said you have to cut back on the amount of gym time when training for the games. Focus on your throws. Even Craig will tell you this "use the gym to get strong" the strength is but a foundation to throw. I am by no means a good thrower maybe low to middle "B" but I have seen in the past few weeks that as long as a keep my base strength and don't try to crush the iron everytime I go into the gym while I am training, my throws improve.
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Posted: 8/09/11 at 9:26am |
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I think this might end up being my off season programming, and in-season I'll drop the power day and keep the other 2.. I'm going to give it a shot as time progresses towards pleasanton and see how I feel.
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Posted: 8/09/11 at 3:00pm |
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I've got 38 years in the lifting game, done most everything powerlft, Oly
competitive. Strength coached for awhile at a pac 10 University. Don't see any dumbell work in your routine or core work not sure if you use them But at 52 I'm finding that it is helping my overall strength. And I never ever do 1 rep max's I save that for the field. I don't think there is such a thing as the perfect program, because your body changes every several years and after forty it really does some crazy stuff. |
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Posted: 8/10/11 at 3:32am |
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I do DB rows quite often on my assitance day, but thats about the only thing I touch a DB for. I do core everytime I get in the gym, I just don't have it listed.. I don't do 1RMs very often either, but I do like to work up to a training max. Something that feels heavy, but is only 95% of my true max, then I typically work my %s off of that for the day. |
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Posted: 8/10/11 at 3:53am |
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I use them for shoulder press or light day for push press because they can
be harder than barbell PP and use them for Incline Press and Rows. I don't use as much freeweight as I use to except for Squatting, High pulls, hang cleans and Deads. Hammer strength keeps me free of injury and don't need to have a spotter. |
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