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    Posted: 1/05/11 at 8:38am

Hi gang I have a strange problem, I am still new to this but it seemed like I was throwing better before I started to incorporate all the tips and suggestions and watch all of the vids....maybe my brain is getting in the way again, has this ever happened to anyone, and what did you do

thanks for any help

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If it were easy, it wouldn't be worth doing.  I'm dead serious:  throwing in highland games is character building.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote prevail Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 1/05/11 at 9:58am
Been throught this and maybe your problem is the "ALL"
part of tips and suggestions.I have found that drills
are useful to correct movements in throws but only one
thing at a time.ie focus on identifying and then
correcting one issue,practice till it is natural,then move on to the next.
I almost feel like I have to forget how I was throwing
before I can move on to how I should be throwing.This also happens when I gain/loose: weight,strength,mobility
or knowledge of technique.
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Depending on which event ie hammers if you add upper body muscle mass it can shorten your throws.
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Fundamentals.  Work on those.  And work on them some more.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alan H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 1/06/11 at 5:58am
What Prevail and Duncan said.

don't try to work on too many things at once.

Analogy...my boss at a former job told me that yeah, it cost a couple thousand bucks to send me or a colleague to a conference, but if we came back with ONE really good idea, it was worth it.  The same exact principle applies here.

Go stare at YouTube, or go to a clinic.  If you learn, really learn ONE thing from that clinic or from that 20 minutes of staring at YouTube, and then you incorporate that ONE thing, it was worth it.  My own personal rule...NEVER try to do more than two things in one motion. This is from the guy who's buddies will tell you that I'm the guy on the field that overthinks EVERYTHING.

Relax...get on your toes.  That's what I'm telling myself in the discus these days.

Ram that hip down the sector line... pull the top half around....that's what I'm trying to do in the shot/stones these days.

NOT..NOT NOT NOT...Ram that hip down the sector  line,  AND  pull the  top half through the throw, AND get an active right foot, AND throw through my head.

It'll never work.


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I am a wet behind the ears noob. But I do know for sports like HG, SM or PL you wont get rich and famous or popular with hot college chicks. So if your "head" is in the way; remember this is supposed to be fun.

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Thanks for the advise guy's it's kind of like my golf swing as I am setting up I am thinking" keep your head down, remember to transfer your weight, get your hips through, don't block the right side and dammit RELACKS"...lol.. so great advise one thing at a time and be fundamentaly sound...no hot college chicks? dang
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Beg pardon, but I hang out with hot college chicks all the time.



then again, most of the time when they Want Me So Desperately, it's to fix their computer.
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He does...I was there.

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How heavy have you been throwing? That could be another factor. A good buddy of mine who is also on the forum, Scott Farr, walked his way up to about 32' in HWFD and then a couple weeks later he couldn't break 24' to save his life. All he needed was a few light weeks and to let his head clear up and he started walking his distance back up. If you push too hard you'll do yourself in. Don't forget to take a light phase here and there and to just relax and have fun. Another suggestion I remember reading on another forum was to try throwing without measuring for a while.
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Yeah. Overtraining will KILL your distances.  I know all about it.
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I talked to my Doc because I was feeling fatigued and was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes  so hopefully the meds and a diet change will help..
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I highly reccomend reading the book Never Let Go by Dan John. He
emphasizes simplicity and reps. That way you don't have to use your
head you're body just does it on its own an you consistantly get your
best throw.
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Timothy, these guys are giving you great advice.  Am praying you'll get that diabetes licked.  I'm masters with health problems, but am still out practicing.  My doctors are making me go vegaterian, with a little cold water fish and 3 Omega 3 eggs a week.  I feel better, but miss my spagetti and lamb.  Good luck.  Beth
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One day my older son was working on his baseball swing.
He kept missing my pitches when finally my youngest son
said, "Hey, Dalton, maybe baseball just isn't your
game"....Dalton turned around and told him to shut up in
a very angry voice and turned back around with fire in
his eyes and JACKED one.

Some days we are more focused than others for lots of
reasons.

Sometimes, when we learn a new technique we get worse
before we get better.

I noticed when Sean Betz gave a clinic he would only
teach ONE technique change at a time, when obviously
there was lots of stuff going on. I asked him and he
said, "If I show him everything he's doing wrong it will
never work, you can only make one change at time, master
it, then move to the next thing".   
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very well said Tom
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 When you throw, try to have "a mind like water".
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Originally posted by Old Dude Old Dude wrote:

 When you throw, try to have "a mind like water".


WTH Old Dude this is the Highland games. If anything have a mind like Scotch, or Beer!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Old Dude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 2/24/11 at 10:29am
Paraphrasing the late Bruce Lee (PBUH):

Originally posted by Bruce Lee Bruce Lee wrote:

Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like whisky. If you put whisky into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put whisky into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, whisky can flow or it can crash. Be whisky my friend.


I stand by my advice.
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Now that is much better 
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