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Alan H 
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 Posted: 12/17/10 at 11:32am |
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Yes, that's the exercise...leg extensions. I started doing them for knee rehab. My former physical therapist, and also Goddess Wendy suggested them. They're not part of my regular routine. I do them maybe once every other weeks, just kind of to see how I'm doing. I notice that the two hardcore bodybuilding guys in my gym do them a lot, BTW.
I still feel residual weakness in my knees in exactly the place where leg extensions work, while I'm climbing stairs. I don't notice anything odd in the gym, but I sure feel it on the stairs. Leg extensions seem to help. Split squats, though....they definitely are part of my routine, now, and I "feel" split squats working muscles in the same place. |
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Duncan McCallum
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Posted: 12/17/10 at 2:06pm |
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Alan, Let me clarify a few points... 1. Head up at the end of the throw does not equal head up and back. Dave is right...leaning back might translate into a missed toss. The fix: Keep your fork on the track, drive straight down and block up hard all in a straight line and you'll be fine. This works, trust me...it just takes time to learn how to dial it in. Oh yeah, quit leg extensions unless they are for rehab; I don't want to carry your broke-a$$ around the race track in California. 2. Normally Canadeeyans cannot be trusted, but Brian Austin is right...it is critical to keep the right arm as straight as possible during your wind up and all the way into the drive down (the long leg of the check mark) If you don't, you can: stick your fork in your leg, stick your fork in someone else's leg, or miss your throw. This arm can stay long, loose, and straight. Just like me. 3. Avoid sheaformance anxiety...there is no pill for this; pick a stance and a position relative to the sheaf standards and don't change that for anyone. I cannot tell you how many folks I see change their stance between throws or change their steps out and over relative to the standards and the bag trajectory goes to hell. And most importantly...these are things that work for me. Me, myself, and my preciousssssssssss. Some of the fine-tuning/polish stuff might not work for you. This is not meant to be the final word on sheaf, and don't just take what I say as gospel...question it and find others who are better. "Why can't we pick our own colors?" |
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Alan H
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Posted: 12/17/10 at 2:28pm |
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I suspect that it's not just me who's reading/learning this thread!!!
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Duncan McCallum
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Posted: 12/17/10 at 2:44pm |
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For good or ill... |
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CDarby
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Posted: 12/18/10 at 1:58am |
Absolutely correct. Now if the snow would just go away so I could go out and practice this stuff. |
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J. Baty
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Posted: 12/18/10 at 11:08am |
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Alan, I step out further the higher I go. Because the bag will peak behind the bar if I don't. Now I have to go do my sheaf blaster 5000.
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KiltBill
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Posted: 12/18/10 at 1:15pm |
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Jeff, may I recommend the Turbo bands as they amplify the eccentric
portion of the toss creating greater resistance as well as pain! Alan, your friendly neighborhood spider hulk gave you some great info. Can't wait to see your next video. Toss high my sheaf brother! |
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Posted: 12/22/10 at 5:21pm |
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Some have to learn the fork.
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Over Fork Over
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Duncan McCallum
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Posted: 12/23/10 at 5:50am |
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There a few gents out there who really do get the sheaf. I hate those forkin' guys. |
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Alan H
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Posted: 12/23/10 at 5:55pm |
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I tried it yesterday but some guy in this red and blue latex suit came over and did something weird to my camera, so no video.
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Duncan McCallum
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Posted: 12/25/10 at 9:26am |
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Hate it when he does that.
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Alan H
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Posted: 1/03/11 at 4:05pm |
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OK, I have an all-comers track met on Saturday, but after that I will set up the camera and chuck sheaf over the goalposts. This is assuming I can get away with it on the track and that it doesn't pour down rain.
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Posted: 1/03/11 at 10:00pm |
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You go big Guy, I'm rooting for you!
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Alan H
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Posted: 1/09/11 at 6:22am |
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DAS SHEAFMEISTER
I'm a little out of gas in this video, I'd just finished an all - comers track meet and that after kicking my ass with a hard core workout on Friday, but it is, what it is. I think I need to practice this a few times at half-crank to get some details worked out, like not pulling up with my right arm. |
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Duncan McCallum
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Posted: 1/10/11 at 11:31am |
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Love the second toss...keep it up Boss. Stay loose. Keep working it. 30 this year. |
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Jason Cherry
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Posted: 1/10/11 at 1:22pm |
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"Suffering Shad!"
Had I seen this before last night it would have helped tremendously. Cannot wait till Sunday to try it out. *NOTE* Special 'No Prize' to anyone that can give me the character that famous quote is from. Hint: think Timely Comics. |
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"Example is the best precept." ~ Aesop
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Duncan McCallum
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Posted: 1/10/11 at 1:28pm |
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Jason Cherry
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Posted: 1/10/11 at 1:34pm |
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KHAN!!! KHAN!!! KHAN!!!
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"Example is the best precept." ~ Aesop
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Posted: 1/11/11 at 12:40am |
OK Mr. Cherry NOW you think yer gonna throw sheaf TOO! ALL the working out--all the caber work and now SHEAF!??? What gives little man? Getting bigger--moving out of the 190 class---hmmm...I see an intresting season this year 
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Posted: 1/11/11 at 11:40pm |
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Got out last night and Tossed the Sheaf. Sheaf Tossing and Deadlifting, these are a few of my favorite things! When the dog bites......... |
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Alan H
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Posted: 1/12/11 at 6:01am |
There.....Bill, there's a huge difference between your right arm and mine. Yours is bent a little bit, but it's down, more or less straight down. I pull mine up. Your throw and Duncans throws are more rotational than mine are. Mine is more of a straight-up clean. I *THINK* that because I'm pulling my right arm up during the power part of the throw, as if I was cleaning a bar, that I'm reducing the radius through which the bag travels. I need to do this about 50 times at half speed to work on keeping my right arm...my "back of the fork handle" arm straight. I suspect that if I do that, combined with the energy of my power clean, that I will see more height. |
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Posted: 1/12/11 at 10:00am |
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I need to ask 2 general question about sheaf fork placement in the bag... 1. Can you explain why you are not going through the sheaf all the way (leaving the tip of the tines in the sheaf bag)? 2. Why you are selecting the side of the sheaf instead of the corner? The little guy from Cali |
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KiltBill
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Posted: 1/13/11 at 1:23am |
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1). I practice throwing the sheaf with different ways to insert the fork. I am short and sometimes the bag tends to be long or stretched & loose. By forking it backwards I can still drive low and get a big pull. If its raining and the bag is wet a shallow bite in the bag is best as the bag will grab the fork when wet. 2). The corner tends to be great for narrow forks but mine is wide. I also don't get much out of the corner type throws as it makes the bag longer and my timing doent take advantage of the swing off the fork that is generated. Throw High and Prosper! |
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J. Baty
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Posted: 1/16/11 at 11:37am |
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Alan, I agree with Duncan. Your 2nd Sheaf toss looked a lot better. Try to get more lift with your legs. You have to lift the bag with your legs when the Sheaf is at its lowest point. The bag should be almost touching the ground. Squat a little lower on your down swing. Using your legs at the right time will really launch the Sheaf.
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Alan H
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Posted: 1/16/11 at 3:45pm |
Brian, that sheaf is not very dense. It's burlap stuffed with straw, not shredded rope, and I sat on it a few times to mash it down, but that's about it. It's MUCH less dense than a Clevenger sheaf, for example. The sheafs you throw with the SAAA are unwound rope, really small and really dense. The thing that Bill said, applies here. I stab the fork into the sheaf halfway down because if I don't, the tail end of the back bumps into the ground. The reason the tines don't come out is that the bag is pretty thick.
However, it's easy to get the fork into this one and the bag releases very easily. Hey, it's what I had on hand to make a practice bag with. |
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