Possible Pec/Bicep Tear

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   Ladies and Gents,
It appears I have either a pec or bicep tear on my right side; I am leaning more towards bicep as the entire arm is black from the elbow to the underarm...overtraining.  This has not prevented me from lifting upper body, but it is excruciating...stupid hurts!!!  So now that I am done lifting heavy, 315+, I am exploring other options; since lifting heavy has been my bread and butter, I am at a loss.  Obviously, my max and strength levels are going to suffer...I can handle 225 for reps with all grip variations, but am curious if this is detrimental.
Shoulder work?  Caber "cable" curls  (Smith)?  Lat work?  Db's instead of BB?
What can I do?  Anyone been here before?
Respectfully,
Duncan McCallum

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Duncan McCallum Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 12/07/07 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7442	Post Options Post Reply Quote Duncan McCallum Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Possible Pec/Bicep Tear Posted: 1/13/09 at 2:32am
	Ladies and Gents, It appears I have either a pec or bicep tear on my right side; I am leaning more towards bicep as the entire arm is black from the elbow to the underarm...overtraining. This has not prevented me from lifting upper body, but it is excruciating...stupid hurts!!! So now that I am done lifting heavy, 315+, I am exploring other options; since lifting heavy has been my bread and butter, I am at a loss. Obviously, my max and strength levels are going to suffer...I can handle 225 for reps with all grip variations, but am curious if this is detrimental. Shoulder work? Caber "cable" curls (Smith)? Lat work? Db's instead of BB? What can I do? Anyone been here before? Respectfully, Duncan McCallum

Joel Sim Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 9/26/07 Status: Offline Points: 560	Post Options Post Reply Quote Joel Sim Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/13/09 at 2:47am
	Duncan, Were you doing french pressess w/ 315 for reps again? I don't have anything to suggest EXCEPT to stay POSITIVE brother. Get well soon -JS-

Duncan McCallum Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 12/07/07 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7442	Post Options Post Reply Quote Duncan McCallum Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/13/09 at 3:28am
	Hahahahaha...Joel, you give me too much credit! I apologize for throwing out numbers...it is a little self-aggrandizing, and I do not mean it that way... I am staying as positive as I can...it positively sucks!!! On the other hand, I am positive I will overcome this, as always. Thanks for the encouragement JS!

Joel Sim Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 9/26/07 Status: Offline Points: 560	Post Options Post Reply Quote Joel Sim Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/13/09 at 3:30am
	Are you still planning on Phoenix?

Duncan McCallum Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 12/07/07 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7442	Post Options Post Reply Quote Duncan McCallum Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/13/09 at 3:34am
	Oh yes...I will be there. Even if I have to throw left-handed... I get the chance to meet some of the gentlemen I watched when I first started this game...of course I am going to go!

kgb1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10/29/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 641	Post Options Post Reply Quote kgb1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/13/09 at 4:46am
	Duncan, Why don't you go to a doc and get the extent of the damage determined? Rick

Duncan McCallum Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 12/07/07 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7442	Post Options Post Reply Quote Duncan McCallum Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/13/09 at 4:51am
	Working on it...work schedule is keeping me in the office and out of the Doc's office. In truth, I am only guessing about the condition of the bicep and pec; I made the call based on pictures of other pec/bicep tears I saw after researching the injury. Maybe my sissyitis has flared up again... How is the wheel Boss?

Cynthia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 9/28/08 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote Cynthia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/13/09 at 5:22am
	Ack! Get well soon, Duncan :(

kgb1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10/29/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 641	Post Options Post Reply Quote kgb1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/13/09 at 7:01am
	Still working on getting full ROM. Hopefully by week's end. Stitches come out next Tues. Doc has been on vacation.

Soul Eater Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 7/31/08 Location: Papua New Guinea Status: Offline Points: 950	Post Options Post Reply Quote Soul Eater Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/13/09 at 10:51am
	I tore my bicep 3 years ago. I felt it give. It was sore not much pain. It did give it a month or two to heal. Saw the doc he told me I would only loose 10 % of my strength in the arm. And if they try to reattach it, your looking at a year recovery. And the surgery needs to happen as soon as possible or they may need to do other things. I don't do pull ups, deads are much lighter and it can be a pain using a screw driver, and it looks very funny. I did not get the surgery I know people who have and people who didn't get it personal choice. If I had to do it over again i think I would have it reattached.

Silverback Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Plow Mule Joined: 8/29/04 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 4276	Post Options Post Reply Quote Silverback Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/13/09 at 11:19am
	A couple things. The fix sometimes is determined by the time until the repair, so go see the doc. What did you hurt it doing? Pressing or pulling? I have torn both, the bicep bled down the arm much more. The peck was regional. Go very high reps to help heal that. Don't be afraid of a hundred. Then work up heavier from that. It is harder to fix the top of the bicep than the bottom. I hate the overtraining line is so obvious from the wrong side and is so hard to see from the correct side. Sneaky thing.
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Action Figure Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 11/03/08 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 96	Post Options Post Reply Quote Action Figure Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/13/09 at 2:25pm
	I don't know what to tell you about training, but I got my fingers crossed for you, brother.

KTDupuis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 8/29/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 761	Post Options Post Reply Quote KTDupuis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:35am
	So...you wrecked your knee and you bicep in less than 2 months. I thought I was self-destructive.
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Duncan McCallum Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 12/07/07 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7442	Post Options Post Reply Quote Duncan McCallum Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1/14/09 at 4:11am
	Yeah, it has basically been a suckfest...