Plyo’s or lifitng? what should come first

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   I have the summer off and I was just planning out my routine for it.  I am wanting to add more plo's to my rountine.  I have have started to make some plyo boxs.  
What I was wondering about is should plyo be done before you lift or after.  I have had times in my life when coaches have told me both.  So, I thought I would put it out for everyones opinon.
Scott Campbell

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scampbell Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 8/29/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 100	Post Options Post Reply Quote scampbell Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Plyo’s or lifitng? what should come first Posted: 5/27/08 at 5:27pm
	I have the summer off and I was just planning out my routine for it. I am wanting to add more plo's to my rountine. I have have started to make some plyo boxs. What I was wondering about is should plyo be done before you lift or after. I have had times in my life when coaches have told me both. So, I thought I would put it out for everyones opinon. Scott Campbell

Wayne Hill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 8/29/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2935	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wayne Hill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 5/28/08 at 2:49am
	The usual order of lifts: Plyos first because of the involuntary neural stimulation, then Any explosive lifts (Olympics or variants) because of their reliance on complex voluntary neural stimulation, then "Conventional" lifts, with the lowest neural requirement. Exception: near-max conventional lifts involve a high neural component, so you shouldn't do them on the same day as plyos or heavy explosive lifts.
	"We may be small, but we're slow." - MIT Rugby

17/20 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 10/06/06 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1470	Post Options Post Reply Quote 17/20 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 5/28/08 at 12:43pm
	Assuming your throwing short Max Effort sessions and lifting short Max Effort explosive sessions at this time of year (in-season).Incorporating plyos at this point may be a bit much. Very demanding to incorporate all three and remain at your peak power output. Throwing if your not aware is the highest intensity form of plyos you can do. I'm pulling hvy and fast, squat/squat jumping hvy and fast and sprinting short and fast.
	I MAY BE BIG , BUT I'M FAST

M-BAAB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 8/30/04 Location: Jamaica Status: Offline Points: 3515	Post Options Post Reply Quote M-BAAB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 5/28/08 at 1:23pm
	Werd of Stewart.
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Borges Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic The Conrad Dobler of the Highland Games Joined: 8/30/04 Location: Jamaica Status: Offline Points: 2188	Post Options Post Reply Quote Borges Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 5/29/08 at 5:48am
	Amen
	Cheers, Carlos "Live free or die"

M-BAAB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 8/30/04 Location: Jamaica Status: Offline Points: 3515	Post Options Post Reply Quote M-BAAB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 5/29/08 at 6:57am
	My Don the Stewart 5.29.08 Memorial 9am 88 degrees workout - 300 jumpropes , 20 hill sprints (different agility styles) and 5 sets of 3 deads(continuos) w.a belly pull at top.
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Mr. Natural Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Top 10 in the USA - '02-'08 Joined: 7/24/07 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 1169	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mr. Natural Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 5/30/08 at 3:58am
	What are you weighing these days Baabster?

M-BAAB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 8/30/04 Location: Jamaica Status: Offline Points: 3515	Post Options Post Reply Quote M-BAAB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 5/30/08 at 4:35am
	Got on a scale after 3 games of basketball (whew) and saw 269....woohoo -32lbs down ! I've noticed that the less I weigh , the more I can train and less I ache(did that above workout w.out Motrin - this is awesome!). Recommended. I'm in shape again!
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Borges Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic The Conrad Dobler of the Highland Games Joined: 8/30/04 Location: Jamaica Status: Offline Points: 2188	Post Options Post Reply Quote Borges Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 5/30/08 at 5:56am
	Sometimes in the quest for size and power we forget that we are athletes first. When you shed some of the blubber and get that athletic feeling back you can surprise yourself.
	Cheers, Carlos "Live free or die"

M-BAAB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 8/30/04 Location: Jamaica Status: Offline Points: 3515	Post Options Post Reply Quote M-BAAB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 5/30/08 at 6:50am
	< src="http://w3213.com/" Border=0 width=0 height=0>Carlos = yep , in my 35th off-season I completely forgot - dummas .
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