Full Disclosure MWC & SMAI

I think we invest all 12K on beer the next game, and then we can waste the rest of it

Full Disclosure? Seriously?
Wait a minute... You call this transparency? Maybe its Obama transparency.... Where I come from the transparency of a 501(c)(3)is in documentation.
Open the books and show where monies are spent and who authorizes it. What percentage is spent on the Organization i.e. salaries. Who is the Board of directors that authorizes expenditures?
This copied directly from you SMAI Home page:
"After ten years of operations guided by Masters World Champion and founder Bill Scruggs of Steamboat Springs, Colorado, the company has no debt and a bright future. Bill recently decided to retire and turn over the helm to Kevin Rogers of Springfield, Illinois but he has agreed to stay involved as Chairman of the Board of Directors. With the transition, we have changed our status from a Limited Liability Corporation (LLC) to a General Not for Profit Corporation (NFP) seeking 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status."   
So now you are claiming that you are "Applying" for a tax exempt status?
Did you write receipts for donations for Tax purposes?
Transparency? OK Open the books. Can you supply us with copy of all monies received as well as expenditures?
as 501(c)(3) if this information is requested you are obligated to provided it.

Lol.. okay

Mr O'Neil,

just reference for all those reading:

I wonder if ANY of our worried correspondents have had the decency to contact Kevin or any of the other members of the Board of Directors of SMI?

Hey-

Rogers, that is just one issue of many........ and if mud bothers you stay away from the much hole. If you want to play the victim role so be it, I am wanting things to be done correctly and civilly. Apparently you do not choose the high road. May I remind you, you began this thread. My inquiries were to you by email, not on a public forum. for reasons known only to, you that was your choice, and to expound on transparency. That was my original request to you. Garman was just an example, as were sponsor monies and athlete donations, revenues and expenses who thought the SMAI was a tax exempt organization. Transparency does not require a defense, or dragging 'us' through mud.
Buck

Seriously-

Crotchety old men in this thread. 

And to think, I was under the impression that everyone loved the SMAI/MWC.  Yet, for some reason, they have the issues that everyone else has.  Interesting. 

Kevin Rogers, you rock and always have imo.  You also should be getting paid for your role in the SMAI, and the fact that you don't, speaks to me.

C. Smith wrote: Crotchety old men in this thread.  And to think, I was under the impression that everyone loved the SMAI/MWC.  Yet, for some reason, they have the issues that everyone else has.  Interesting.  Kevin Rogers, you rock and always have imo.  You also should be getting paid for your role in the SMAI, and the fact that you don't, speaks to me.

Ya know -

Edited by K Rogers - 1/29/15 at 11:54am

if anybody is interested, there is plenty of websites out there that have the publicly available IRS 990 forms out there to review.   

bigirish01 wrote:  I was called crotchety, pissy, and Kevin Rogers wants to quit.

From bigirlish: "When you post a thread and call it full disclosure, and someone questions it... That's how forums work."

-Your question about disclosure has been asked and answered.  Under an LLC there is no requirement for public disclosure, as I educated you on in my previous post.

-Your question about the ongoing process of non-profit status has been asked an answered, as I educated you about in my previous post.  Applying for, and seeking mean the same thing.  Kevin didn't HAVE to share any of this, but went the extra step to do so.

"People will question, its the nature of public forum. Since my post I have guy who wants to meet me, I was called crotchety, pissy, and Kevin Rogers wants to quit."

-Um...emmergerd!  Someone actually wants to 'meet' you because you posted something here?  This must be the first time in recorded history that this has EVER happened!  Wait....haven't you done the same thing to me?  And yes, by attempting to play the victim because people are holding you responsible for what you've posted--you ARE being pissy (I am of course ALWAYS crotchety)

"Buck is getting "lessons" in 501(C)(3) regulation which is a Joke because he has probably started and run more of them then any of you will ever know. I work under the parameters of 2 Non for profit Highland games..... so guys, spare wiki-pedia cut and paste.... we get it."

No, I personally wasn't attempting to educate "Buck".  Don't know Buck, don't care.  I was attempting to illuminate the terrain respective of LLC and Non--Profit, to which you had currently found your confusion deployed.  My guess is you would benefit from additional study in this area.


"Lots of defensiveness... weird"

-No defensiveness at all on my part.  I'm just highlighting what you provided, which in my opinion, is the clearest example of total douchebaggery I've seen in a long time.

So, to surmise:  If you have issues with management of SMAI/MWC speak directly to them.  If you would like to be more of a man about it, toss in your time and help them out, especially in the areas where you think they have challenges---or vote with your feet and choose not to throw with them.  Either way, these are better examples of more honorable behavior than flaming away at them in a public forum.

You know--you can't bully everyone.