Dan McKim: Standing WOB positions

I think the Nod to the Gods is the secret.

Thanks for the tip....or the non tip?    

I am sure Dan appreciates the crotch shot posted on the web

all i notice in that last pic is HOW SMALL DAN'S THIGHS
ARE!!!

C'mon, seriously...how does that guy throw so far!?!?!


:)

love ya, Dan...couldn't resist.

Sean Betz wrote: What's really important to note is that on pic 3, Dan is starting to extend his whole body and the weight is still between his feet.  Most athletes at this point have the weight already chest high.   You can't hit this position when you wait for the weight to drop to pull.  Its creating separation between the hips and legs, that will allow you to fully use your lower body, with the weight in a powerful position to finish a pull.  Good pic.

Maybe I'm not understanding your comment correctly Sean, but I disagree with the part in bold. I think the biggest mistake many athletes make
in the standing WOB is pulling too early. When this happens, the athlete fights the weights natural trajectory down and misses the low point that Dan's
pictured in, instead of allowing the weight to swing down to its lowest point before exploding upward with it.

I still struggle with this, and waiting on the weight and focusing on starting my pull as low as possible is something I'm really working on. In fact, on all of
my biggest throws I thought I missed the window and pulled too late.

Of course, this could just be something that works for me.

Borges wrote: There are common themes for success here. Dan really reaches back so that he has a long pull to smoothly accelerate the wait. He gets his hips UNDER him before he drives up (takes a lot of patience). And he hits it when the implement is pretty low. In my opinion, no one in the games has ever had better WOB technique than this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhImy0BFkVM&feature=relat ed

I see your WOB video and Raise you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ODTgeIVVI

LOL I bet!  Good times seeing those two at the same game tearing it up.

Right on. I'm not as strong in the hang movements as you and Dan, and that may be the difference. I feel the more I can bend my knees and
use my legs to accelerate the implement the better off I am in the height events. Sorry for the side bar!

if I'm reading this right Sean, you're saying you start pulling as soon as it starts moving forward again?

IMO, the only way this would be feasable is to not allow it to have any kind of a "high point" as it's behind you between your legs and again the only way to allow this to happen is a very short and very slow swing/cast. Then follow it back very quickly, almost pushing it back behind you to activate the ham stretch... Then as soon as it slows down and starts moving forward, you sink and drive hard? Is what you're saying?

jsully wrote: if I'm reading this right Sean, you're saying you start pulling as soon as it starts moving forward again? IMO, the only way this would be feasable is to not allow it to have any kind of a "high point" as it's behind you between your legs and again the only way to allow this to happen is a very short and very slow swing/cast. Then follow it back very quickly, almost pushing it back behind you to activate the ham stretch... Then as soon as it slows down and starts moving forward, you sink and drive hard? Is what you're saying?

Sort of.  I just think by the time you think you should pull, its too late.  Kind of like the caber.  The weight should be dropping.  Remember the pull starts with the lower body, so it shouldn't kink the weight. 

titanium 2 wrote: Aside from the fact that Dan has the thighs of a 5th grade girl!I used a reactive type pull ,utilizing a flat back and quick hip drop to initiate the pull.As in Sean's case I pulled heavier weight from the hang and never had much of a wide based ''catch'' so this tech worked well toward my strengths .Watch Geoff Capes if you get a chance,his technique is simple ,but very,very effective!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhB4KBe6hiw

Right about 350 or so, I was pretty solid with a 44'waist 62' chest. At the time I was the throws ans strength coach at Lafayette College so I took the time spent in the room all day to do abit of power body building.Even did ''arms'' for the 1st time in my training!

It definitely looks like Paul and Dan start accelerating as soon as the weight begins to travel back toward the feet. I watched Andy set the world record in Austin last year and obviously his technique works perfectly for him. I learned how to do his and Matt V's method at their clinic and am still playing with it. I am more prone to do it like Dan and Paul (very ugly mind you in comparison as I am still a lowly neophyte) but definitely think it is worth working on both methods. 

Posting Zolk's record throw so people don't have to search.