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charlesdmickey 
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 Topic: Throwing with non-dominate handPosted: 2/07/11 at 12:51pm |
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Total newb here. Did some throwing on Sat/Sun for the very first time. Did light hammer, light weight, stones, caber, sheaf and weight for height. My right trap, and shoulder feel like they have been through the grinder. But I expected as much. Does anyone throw with their non-dominate hand just for "balance" reasons?
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adam keep
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Posted: 2/07/11 at 11:46pm |
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Dude I have been practicing with both hands just in case. I am a newb also though so who knows if it is going to help. I can see it being mega hard with the more technical throws and coordination. Be ready to look retarded, haha!
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Posted: 2/08/11 at 3:20am |
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I do. When I practice by myself, I throw out from the trig w/my right hand, then throw it back w/my left. If I don't, I get spasms in my left trap.
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Posted: 2/08/11 at 9:49am |
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The only throwing I do with my off hand is wob. I can
barely spin the right way and don't wanna kill myself trying the other way |
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charlesdmickey
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Posted: 2/08/11 at 10:05am |
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Hey Adam! Yeah, "tard" will be the word of the day. I thought loading stones was hard. This crap is complicated! But I like the idea of throwing back to the trig with the left... |
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adam keep
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Posted: 2/08/11 at 11:30pm |
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YO Chuck! You trying out the HG too huh? I just need something new to do. My body is too beat up from doing all the running for the AF and then the heavy ass events from strongman. I like this because speed is key and it has always been a strong point for me. I got lucky with this assignment too since I am a hop skip and a jump from the birthplace of the sport!
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Sean Betz
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Posted: 2/09/11 at 4:53am |
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I understand the idea of training the opposite hand, but be careful. Usually your body isnt ready to handle a hard throw, in the opposite direction. I think maybe walking through the motions may be ok. Your body will condition to doing a ton of throws with one side of the body. Its also why I think, training with big barbell movements, in the weight room, will keep you fairly balanced, as well as twists to both sides. I know, I for one, need the technique work on throwing with my dominant hand. I would put your effort into that, to be honest.
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Posted: 2/09/11 at 5:41am |
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Baseball players don't "Switch hit" for balance, Tennis
players never hit with the off hand, shot putters never throw left handed.....I think you are more likely to hurt yourself doing that than any good you would do unless you are ambidextrous. You don't need to do that, the body will adjust. That's the basis for Vince Gironda's DB training years ago, he had all his guys do alternate DB training because he believed it would build muscle twice as fast. I would do what Sean said...he's a pro in more ways than one. He's a pro throw, but he's also a pro trainer and knows more than most anyone I know!!!! |
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charlesdmickey
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Posted: 2/09/11 at 11:38pm |
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Some good points. Thanks! |
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adam keep
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I get ya! I can't much other than muscle the left side anyways so it's not like it is doing much good. And you're right, it's hard enough learning the tech with the dominant side! |
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Charles, I agree with Sean. I also do large moves with the bar bells on both sides, and also with my stretch bands. I'm a lefty and a 63 year old woman, so I like stretch bands. The only thing I like to do with both sides is Braemar stone, as it is theraputic for my right hip and back. I try really hard to keep my non throwing side strong. Good luck and have lots of fun. Beth Harper
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Posted: 2/10/11 at 5:46am |
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In some circles this would be referred to as "The Stranger."
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Posted: 2/11/11 at 2:55am |
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Throwing with the opposite hand gives you better body awareness. Since nothing feels natural, you have to concentrate one what you are suppose to do. When you switch back, sometimes you can fix bad habits you never knew you had. I doubt I would attempt this with the 56 or even the 42, but I think everything else would be ok as long as you don't try to go 100% right away. For a newb, I would pass on this for awhile, since there is still lots to learn.
Just for "balance" reasons, I'd pass and just to full body lifts like mentioned above. |
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Posted: 2/12/11 at 12:54am |
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I tried a few seasons ago, however it was wearing me out for my dominant hand throws. I would rather take 30 throws with dominant hand then 15R and 15L...
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Posted: 2/12/11 at 3:59am |
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2cents - I usually 50% the br stone back and do lots of right and left handed wob. I learned from Wee Willy Barron to start hammer by winding the wrong way for an easy 10. It makes the correct side feel almost easy. Course , closer to a game it's only what ima gonna use gameday. |
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Posted: 2/17/11 at 5:41am |
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Of course. it's better to at least practice with both arms, that way 1) if you hurt the dominant too much, you can still use the non-dominant, and 2) it will strengthen your throws with your dominant arm |
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Posted: 2/17/11 at 5:55am |
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wat plz read this again from the former World Champion:
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Posted: 2/17/11 at 6:13am |
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I don't see where you're confused. I said practicing with the non dominant will help strengthen your dominant throw.
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Please go on and tell me how...and if you could cite a study that says bilateral transfer (which really was addressed with the weight room for us) leads to increased performance, that would be great too.
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Posted: 2/17/11 at 6:53am |
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I don't have anything like that, I'm just going off of what I fel when I throw, and what I've been told by other competitors at games.
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OK, i see.
I'll help you, there are no such studies. The only thing you will find is purely anecdotal, which at best is really hard to put faith in. As for other other competitors saying that, the former World Champ in this thread said it's not needed. How did those other competitors throws measure up to Sean's throws? Since we're talking anecdotal scenarios, I'll go with the guy who throws the farthest. Although, if you're just "going off what you feel", well I can't dispute that, lol. |
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Posted: 2/17/11 at 9:46am |
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If you feel like it helps, go for it. Different strokes etc. I'm assuming that he doesn't have Betz's ridonculous strength levels, speed, technique, long arms etc. |
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Posted: 2/21/11 at 4:07pm |
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I used to throw the hammers and wob a fair bit with the non dominant side.Think it helps a lot restoring / balancing muscle mass and you never know when you could be injured.Putts and weights were to difficult for me
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I am not good enough the one way much less have the time to start going the other. Seems like something someone with a ton of time does. What about recovery, I am at the limit now? And as Sean says, Injury. I have not perfected getting hurt with the dominate hand quite yet.
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Posted: 2/26/11 at 2:20pm |
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..or you could do like world masters champion and perennial youngster 70yr old vern alexander, who injured his dominant hand years ago and switched entirely to his weak side, and now owns the record book in the 65-74 year spread. vern is also a mean sob, and that explains it.
in other words, he had to learn it all over, and managed it because he focused on it. unless you intend to focus on your weak side, and bring it up level, then your time is better spent on your natural throws, and you can own the record book too. ..i could be wrong, but i don't think so. best rgds |
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