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    Posted: 10/20/11 at 4:45am
Anyone have experience making the blades for the sheaf shoe.  I made some this year, however the blades are flexible.  I'd like to know exactly what I should get and also how to get the perminant "s" bend that I have seen.  Any advice would be great!
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wat.

I would not wear blades for the sheaf.







If you need blades for the hammer, there have been several threads that have addressed that. 
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My bad.  I meant Hammer!!!  Thats what i get for posting while working.
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http://www.brockthrow.com/

or just buy some lawnmower blades and use a grinder to trim down the edge to a point. then attach to boot and voila..

 

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Lawnmower blades!  Excellent! 

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I've been rocking the lawn mower blades for years ... love
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Originally posted by Daniel McKim Daniel McKim wrote:

I've been rocking the lawn mower blades for years ... love
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YEP, and you don't even have to drill holes, lol.. just saw one end off and bring the other to a point

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How long should the blade be past the tip of the shoe?  
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Originally posted by Nathan Parker Nathan Parker wrote:

How long should the blade be past the tip of the shoe?  

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Originally posted by Jim Glover Jim Glover wrote:

Originally posted by Nathan Parker Nathan Parker wrote:

How long should the blade be past the tip of the shoe?  

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Originally posted by Nathan Parker Nathan Parker wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Glover Jim Glover wrote:

Originally posted by Nathan Parker Nathan Parker wrote:

How long should the blade be past the tip of the shoe?  

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imo - blades are severely overrated.

learn to throw reasonably far before adding them. as a new
thrower, it's about reps more than footwear (in every
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Originally posted by mike pockoski mike pockoski wrote:

imo - blades are severely overrated.

learn to throw reasonably far before adding them. as a new
thrower, it's about reps more than footwear (in every
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Pretty much my plan exactly.  I'm starting with the bare bones basics and work my way up.  When I can't get any more out of my hammer I'll go with blades. 

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Originally posted by mike pockoski mike pockoski wrote:

imo - blades are severely overrated.

This from the guy who throws over 133' LH and 108' HH!!
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Originally posted by mike pockoski mike pockoski wrote:



learn to throw reasonably far before adding them. as a new
thrower, it's about reps more than footwear (in every
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^^ Agree 100%. 

Too many people looking for the easy way to throw things....there is no easy way. 
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yeah wally, but i think he throws that same distance without the blades! training with mike/mindy i actuall started throwing hammers without blades, working on gettin my hips and all working right, then added blades back in and had one of my best hammer yrs. in a long time! this off season i am going to throw half my throws with, half without!  [some games ya cant wear em' may as well be prepared]
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Originally posted by The Jayster The Jayster wrote:

yeah wally, but i think he throws that same distance without the blades!

My bad, Jay!  l was talking about without blades.  Apparently, l thought that everyone could read my mind!! 

l'm sure that you remember that competitors are unable to use blades at the Claw.
  The Pockoski's ability to throw both with and without blades gives them a leg up on the competition.
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But Poke could throw the hammer a long way with one foot on a coffee can and the other in a hole.  
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Originally posted by C. Smith C. Smith wrote:

Originally posted by mike pockoski mike pockoski wrote:



learn to throw reasonably far before adding them. as a new
thrower, it's about reps more than footwear (in every
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^^ Agree 100%. 

Too many people looking for the easy way to throw things....there is no easy way. 

out of curiosity, what kind of #s would you like to see before guys add blades?

I've heard different things. 80/100, 90/110.. then you have the guys that are 60/80 and want to use blades..

I switched to blades when I was 90/110 and I've only added about 10ft to each with the blades.

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90/110 seems reasonable.  
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I got the blades when I was stuck at 80/100.  I saw some immediate improvement with the blades (86/106), then threw again without them and hit almost the same numbers without blades.  It was like the blades allowed me to push the envelope enough to teach my body how to throw it that much farther, and once I had done it, I was able to do it with or without blades. 

I'm definitely still in the learning phase with blades, but I tend to agree with the alternating philosophy for practice.  It seems like a good way to reduce the development of too many bad habits that can come from using blades all the time.  Thousands of winds are in my immediate future...
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I am too paranoid to use blades. I fear for my ankles and knees.  However, there's a possibility that I might use one blade next season. We shall see.
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I'm doing a lot of these.

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I must be a weird case then. The first time I used the
blades I added almost 30 feet to my throws.
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Originally posted by crazysaladboy crazysaladboy wrote:

I must be a weird case then. The first time I used the
blades I added almost 30 feet to my throws.


You are definitely an Anomaly! 

I think that the benefit is probably inversely proportional to weight at some level, which would explain your large benefit.  I'm guessing you did this a few years ago, which means that there wasn't much of you there to keep you from taking off with those crazy fast rotations...
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I honestly think that it will help, but it is a matter of
knowing how to throw before you put the boots on. I think
that if you have good tech the boots will help for sure.
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Originally posted by crazysaladboy crazysaladboy wrote:

I honestly think that it will help, but it is a matter of
knowing how to throw before you put the boots on. I think
that if you have good tech the boots will help for sure.


I'm pretty sure that was a nice way of telling me that my tech sux...

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Should I be practicing the 22 to be better at the 16?  Kinda like a baseball player swinging on deck with a donut on his bat.

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Buddy of mine up north said the best thing he ever did for his hammer was practice with a 2 1/2# plate on paracord.  Warmed up with it and hit a new PR.
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Originally posted by Nathan Parker Nathan Parker wrote:

Should I be practicing the 22 to be better at the 16?  Kinda like a baseball player swinging on deck with a donut on his bat.



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