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Topic: TRAINING LOG: James MurdockPosted: 12/07/10 at 12:30pm |
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Hey everybody, thanks again for the welcome. Now I'm going to wear it out.
I've recently switched to a very bare bones 3 days/week squat/press/pull program. So far the recovery has been surprisingly good, but I know I have to keep an eye out for overtraining my squats. Yes, these numbers are in pounds, but keep in mind that I'm eleven years old. Dec 2--I break my months-long lurking on NASGAweb. Low-bar squats: 3x245x5. Bench: 2x225x5, 1x225x8 Deads: 2x315x5, 1x335x3 (PR) Dec 4-- Low bar squats: 245x5, 2x265x5. Strict press: 3x145x5 (PR) RDLs off 3" box: 3x225x5 Dec 7-- I have been stressing about my horrible squats, so I decided screw it, I'll go Oly style; I'm already moving such pathetic weights, why not start over and do it right. And then today I see some timely posts on here, and today I went high-bar, ATG for the first time in my life. Had to rush today to get home from the gym, so no press and inadequate warm-up/cool-down. Squats--worked up to 245x5 for a few sets. Very odd that 265 was hard in a powerlifting stance to parallel but 245 was manageable high-bar ATG. Probably not as high-bar as I think, but definitely narrow stance and ATG. Power cleans: Lots of singles at 225 and 235. Missed at 245 a couple of times. Came home and did Russian twists with medicine ball, then with baby. Did some medicine ball throws into my heavy bag*. This lead to my five-year-old working the bag for a few minutes, of course. Named a goblin Hookgrip. *No baby involved |
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Posted: 12/10/10 at 4:51am |
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Dec 9- Sq- 3x5 up to 265. Narrow, ATG squats are making my day. I don't have any of the hip flexor pain that was giving me problems coming out of the hole on PL squats. I could have gone heavier and I expect this number to be less ridiculous pretty soon. DL-3x5 up to 335. Fair bit of spittle and grunting. Push Press-3x185x5. Just for comparison, I was struggling with 95# a few months ago on this lift. Dips-3x10 with ~25lb chain All modern PRs on the lifts--obviously I am paying for it today. |
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Posted: 12/10/10 at 7:29am |
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Nice work, thanks for logging. FWIW, have you tried not doing squats AND deads on the same day? It seems like everyone I've met or spoke to( myself included ) has better results spreading those 2 lifts apart. Someguys alternate them every week, several seem to hit them both ( through some variation of the lifts ) on different days of the same training week. Food for thought. |
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Posted: 12/10/10 at 7:55am |
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Thanks Joel.
For the past few months (so as long as I've been lifting) I had been doing the conventional schedule: lifting with one deads day and one squats day. I know going heavy on both on the same day is not the best way to get much done...I am exhausted by the time I'm done with the first anyway. The reason I'm trying this is because I have been limited in my ability to get into the weight room more than twice a week, and because I thought Rippetoe's starting strength program sounded like a better fit for me to get some progress on my squats, and this is basically what he calls for. He actually has you dead every other workout--which I think is too much for me. |
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Posted: 12/10/10 at 8:06am |
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Posted: 12/10/10 at 8:13am |
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That remains to be seen, of course. Basically I just looked at programs until I found someone reputable who gave me permission to squat 3x/week. |
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Posted: 12/10/10 at 8:44am |
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If I understand correctly, you're rebuilding your strength these days (been there, done that). For a period of time, you get a "newbie pass" on a lot of the issues that experienced lifters need to pay attention to. Basically, your body responds so well to training that there's less likelihood of overtraining. You'll know it when it's time to switch it up, so go with what's working for you now. We'll be glad to help when you start running into walls.
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Posted: 12/10/10 at 9:30am |
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Yeah, I am definitely still in the heart of the anything works phase. I welcome any advice, though I'll probably ignore it I have a huge lift today--moving my stuff out of my office and into the new one. |
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Posted: 12/10/10 at 10:01am |
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Hey, I started at six years old. I think I might be able to claim eight now. One day at a time, and logging here is a great benefit and motivation. Good on ya!
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Posted: 12/10/10 at 10:22am |
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"there is nothing more Scottish than stubborness" Except maybe Braveheart...wait...Australian. Ok ok! The Highlander!!! Damn...French. I give up. |
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Posted: 12/21/10 at 1:23pm |
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Stop me if you've heard this one before:
N00b starts hitting a bit of a stride, bumps up weight too much, poor form leads to a little tweak, tweak feels better a few days later, so he pulls deads and goes down in a swearing, crumpled heap. Maybe the last part is a little too specific, but I knew better. I am fine now--the first day was pretty bad but it's gotten significantly better every day since--I am just mad at myself for not waiting a little longer and costing me some extended time with the real weights. I have vowed to make up for it by eating a lot in the intervening weeks and really hitting the preacher curls. I need to work on my peak. Ok, I will eat a lot and do some pressing. I just started a new job last week, so I can use the extra hour for a couple of weeks, but it still sucks. I gave into the cajoling of the bros and amazingly got near a lifetime PR on the bench last week, for what that's worth. It was literally 50lbs heavier than anything I've moved in the past months (read: decade). |
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Posted: 12/22/10 at 12:25am |
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glad you're feeling better & congrats on the PR!
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Posted: 12/22/10 at 12:32am |
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Way to go on the PR Brother! Keep at it.
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Posted: 12/29/10 at 12:45pm |
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Thanks, guys. Had some brotastic lifting days over the past little while--bench, incline, dips, military, etc., but decided to give my back a gentle run out and everything went fine.
Monday Split Jerks--worked up to 185 and did a bunch of doubles. Nothing in my back at all. I realize with good form and rational thought this wouldn't be on my "upper" day, but that's making two dangerous assumptions. Bench--3x225x8. Not great, but I was late from work--missing the regulars--and the only potential spotters looked dicey, so I went solo. Incline, dips. Tuesday The Y gym was empty for some reason, so I shot around and even jumped a little. Too scared to do anything exerting, but my back felt good enough to go hit the weights. Hang cleans--5x185x3. OK, maybe this wasn't smart, but I felt fine doing them with jerks, and I hadn't done these in many years and wanted to give it a shot. So different from power cleans--I need to work them in more. Squats--took it slow and easy up to 225x10. No problems at all, and it gave me a chance to think about form, going off my heels better and all that. Still made me dizzy, so that's a plus. Reverse hypers--this was my only back pain, but it was the appropriate kind. So, good day in the gym. No big weights or anything exciting, but I was able to do some moderate weight without any immediate or residual pain. Probably try some light deads on Friday, but keep the regulator around 225 and maybe open up a bit next week. The thought of throwing in the ice makes my back seize up, so that may be a while off, still. |
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Posted: 12/30/10 at 3:05pm |
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As soon as I wrote this last night my fate was sealed. Went in the back yard and tossed the shot for a few minutes in deep snow. No back problems, just cold problems. High around 7 tomorrow. Bench and then weighted dips today--PR of 11 with the ~ 25# chain. Fun times, but I am itching to do some (relatively) heavy lifting with mah legs. Benching more than I squat is a little too close to reality. |
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Posted: 1/10/11 at 5:23pm |
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My new job is smashing me up, but I've been able to get into the gym pretty regularly, just at weird, quick times.
Sat 1st--Pulled sled, threw weights Mon 3rd--Started out squatting, but knee hurt. Switched to deads up to 335x5. Tu+Wed--Church league basketball. First time in a couple of years. Despite my best efforts, we won. Thu--Recovered from basketball. Horrible shape. Fri--First trial ever. Then second. Not much lifting or throwing going on here... Sat 8th--Squats up to 295x5. Good mornings, DB presses. Mon 10th--I got up early to go into the gym, only to get my car stuck in front of my neighbor's house. So I did car pushes. 2 sets of 500, 3 inches there and back, for about 20 minutes. Good start to the week. After work I managed to get into the gym--patient wife--deads up to 355x3. Everything felt heavy, but this was a modern-day PR. I am a little disappointed in how much effort this was, but I just looked through my logs and saw that my DL 1rm in mid-September was 295, so I should keep some perspective. Then front squats and Kroc rows. |
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Posted: 1/14/11 at 3:04pm |
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I've been working through some nicks and dings. Had some back spasms playing basketball Tuesday, and I've been nursing a weird pain in my clavicle/shoulder area, so I've avoided pressing and throwing.
Fri 14th--Squats up to 2 sets of 315x3. Knowledgeable bro said I was very deep. This represents some great improvement and I was glad to get it this easily today. This was obviously mostly a matter of finding my form, but I still feel stronger under the bar. Did some power cleans, lots of doubles at 225. I was pretty exhausted after the squats, so this was a struggle. Kroc rows 105# 15 with right, 12 with left. Managed not to puke. Good day in the gym for me. |
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Posted: 1/18/11 at 1:15pm |
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Had one of those nights that can make lifting so great.
I was set for a DL single at 375, and I had been dwelling on that weight over the weekend and practicing my form at odd times and inappropriate places. I had been thinking on it so much that I had psyched myself out a little and was thinking of putting it off. Warmed up. DL 225x5, 315x1, 315x1, 365x1--very easy--, 385x1--very easy--,405x1--easy, 425x1--not so easy, but no problem. I know this isn't serious weight, but 4 plates looked pretty bad ass to me. Clean-style deads 4 sets of 225x5. Kroc rows 105# 15 left 16 right. Great night, this puts my gym totals to well over 1k lbs. I am now ready to compete in the 115 lbs. division--unfortunately I weigh twice that. |
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Posted: 1/22/11 at 8:10am |
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Today
Squats--going for 335x1. 225x2x3. 275x2. Belt on. 315x1. 335x1 ATG, easy. 355x1. Not ATG, but felt really deep, and trustworthy guy said good depth. 225x3x10 Front Squat (for kicks and giggles) 225x5 Gassed. Bench 225x2x8 2 sets of Tri push downs As far as I can remember, that's probably just about lifetime PRs in Squats and Deads--all in the same week--and huge improvements in both over the measly weight I had been using. I am a little apprehensive about resetting my work sets to these new 1rm numbers, though. Thanks for letting me post here. As well as being inspired by all the good folks on here, it's made me reevaluate the way I work and to head north, to paraphrase Wendler. And yes, my ill-conceived squats and deads in one day routine didn't last long. Like 2 weeks and one torqued back. |
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Posted: 1/22/11 at 1:29pm |
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50lbs over what you expected is pure sweetness bro, Good Job. As far as recalculating your 531 program, It might not be a bad idea. It looks like you figured it all for back when you were pulling & squatting in the same night. Now that you,ve split them up your work capacity for each lift has increased, right? Learn & apply, recalculate for what is working for you now & be willing to re-evaluate after another 2 or 3 cycles. Just my 0.02 |
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Posted: 1/29/11 at 10:38am |
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Yup, I went ahead and reset my numbers for DL and Squat. Managed to get my reps, but only just.
Monday, Jan 24-- DL 335x5, 355x5, 360x6(5). Power snatch singles up to 175; I suck so bad at these. Kroc rows 105# 16/17. Still very sore from Saturday squats. Thursday, Jan 27-- Sq 275x5, 295x5, 305x6(5), back spasms. Tried to work through it with some power cleans, but thought better of it quickly and waddled to my car. Saturday, Jan 29-- Bench 225x5, 235x5, 235x9(5)--finally had a trustworthy spotter. CG bench for speed 135x2x8. Push jerks up to a triple at 225. Tri push down, 2 sets. It still looks like the ice planet Hoth here, but the local throwing group is setting up practice in a couple of months and I am excited about that. I need to spend a lot more time drilling, since I have no idea how to do any of this. I'm fortunate to live a short drive from all you guys around Draper. Salt Lake valley must have the highest games:humans ratio in the world. |
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Posted: 1/29/11 at 1:33pm |
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Utah? north or south of Salt Lake County?
There's a good group of guys south, somewhere around provo. In Draper you have Ryan Stewart( Utah's only Pro ) & Jeff Loosle who has competed in and AD'd more games than almost anyone, not to mention all his Masters World Records. I have Highland/Strongman training in West Jordan every saturday for a couple of hours when there's not a competetion being held. Throwing at 11am transitioning right into strongman lifting. Who told you we were waiting a couple of months? We've been getting after it all winter. Call me if you want to join us 801-856-7333. |
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Posted: 1/29/11 at 5:57pm |
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I am in Idaho Falls, so you guys qualify more as regional than local. The closest "local" group is in Pocatello. I think they are all hibernating.
I don't find myself down there too often, but I will definitely give you a call next time we're in the area on a weekend, I would love to meet up and puke in your presence. |
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Mon Jan 31--DL 365x3, 375x3, 380x5(3), 225x10, 225x5. Hang Snatch 2x135x5. Kroc rows 105# 16/18
Thurs Feb 3--Squats 315x3, 315x3, 320x6(3), all ATG. I'm feeling so much better on squats. Power clean singles up to 245(PR), miss at 255. RDLs 2x225x6. Sat Feb 5--Bench 225x3, 245x3, 250x3, 250x6(3), C+J 185x3, 225x3. I caught one of these awkwardly and my wrist started acting up. Strict Press 135x5, 145x5. Tri push down. Suitcase carries, 1 set each hand, maybe 60 yards with 90#. I've been around 230# for a month or so now, so I need to pick up my eating or expect my gains to slow down soon a bit. I will do my duty. Joel--Todd and Lyman are in Chubbuck (just outside of Pokey), I think. I've swapped e-mails with them a bit and do plan on going down and throwing with them. |
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Mon Feb 7--
DL 225x3, 2x315x1, 365x1, 2x405x1, 405x3(1). I love deadlifts: The first 2 singles at 405 felt so heavy, but 2 and 3 came right off the ground, and skin fell away from my hand and shin. What a mess. Did a set of hang snatches, but my shoulder was giving me concern. If it's not one thing... Front Squat 205x5, 225x5, 225x3. Exhausted. Kroc rows 100# 15l/16r, 15l/20r. Stretching. Yelling kids. |
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Thurs Feb 10--
On the road, lifting in the hotel. Still had free weights and a good spotter. Bench 225x5, 245x1, 2x260x1, 260x6(1). It looked like a 45lb bar, so I'll take it. DB Press, Tri extension, Russian twists. Conference all day, all-you-can-eat sushi for lunch. |
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Fri Feb 11--Back in a real gym.
Squats--225x5, 275x2, Belt on, 315x1, 335x1, 335x5(1). May have been 6, I am not good at 'rithmatic. I love these "x1" days, I have so much more left for the last set than the x3 or x5 days. Maybe I'm in horrific shape? Front Squats--2x225x5 RDLs--225x5, 275x4(grip gave out, back was next) PR, I guess. 225x5 Hammer winds with 45# plate. Stretching. Backyard football with sons and nephew. |
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I was feeling a little worn out and was going out of town, so I decided to take last week off, all but some push-ups and jumping. It felt a little harder to get in and ramp up for my heavy set today, but it felt good to be fresh going into the gym
Mon Feb 21--DL-- Warm up, 2x225x5, 2x315x2, 365x5, 370x5, 370x7 or 8. My legs were already shaking after my 2nd work set, so I was glad to hammer out however many I did. My form often goes to crap just below my knee and I feel my back arch up--I know better than to ask without video, but would rack pulls from that point help with my weak spot? Hang pulls up to 205x5, hang cleans up to 185x5. Too exhausted at that point to get anything out of it. Russian twists with 45# plate, x20. I think I'll finish my ghetto WFD/WOB pipe+plate implement tomorrow. Excited to be amazed at how heavy 56# weighs. |
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