hammer speed

How do you speed it up when it's in front of you?

I would say the left hip.

Ditto on the knees. When the ball gets behind me, i drive
my knees forward.

Got any video Jake?

Duncan McCallum wrote: MASSIVE bench press = ball speed. Bro.

fml

vid will be up tonight

http://youtu.be/uiX5kAvv0mQ

camera died so I didn't get the "good" winds.

orbit is getting flat on the 2nd wind.. after I noticed this I fixed it started getting it higher. I'll get more video on saturday.

Jake, have you ever thought you might have a bad hammer?  It might not be you.  Look at those photos again.

I hear a thrower was so upset after hammer practice he went and threw his away.  Got a new one to see if it went further.  

In terms of speeding the ball up behind you, I've never
thought of it that way. I think there are multiple ways
to throw the hammer successfully, you just have to find
what works for you. If you are a side-to-side, shift the
hips guy, then pull up some video of Larry Brock and
watch him. His hips are so fast and fluid , and he
really transfers the speed and power from the body into
the ball. If you want a wide, over-arching wind that is
long and fast, then pull up video of Pockoski. Mike
creates a wide, sweeping orbit that puts him into a great
position to really kill the finish. If you are a
"lumberjack" and like to chop wood on your right side and
really work the right side of the wind, then pull up
video of Sean Betz, or even me.

I never think of speeding the ball up behind me but,
rather, catching it soon so I can drive and push the
ball. I want to catch the ball quickly and transition it
to my right side as soon as possible, as I feel that's
where I generate my speed and power. I honestly learned
how to throw hammer from Sean: or the kind of athlete I
am, both in personal strengths and makeup, I feel that
this type of wind and movement is best for me. I've tried
different ways, but I feel I can generate the most power
and speed by driving the ball down and "chopping" it and
really lifting and blocking the finish.

All this being said, I approach the two hammers
differently in how I try to speed them up. In the light
I try to lean back and really catch is early and flatter
on my last wind, while in the heavy I want to keep
working it to my right side so I can hit the finish and
really block my left side hard (this is another concept I
feel many people neglect, but that's for a different
discussion).

I'm at work, so I can't pull them up right now, but I can
for you later if you like. I'll share with you my two
best heavy hammer throws: 124'8.5" at Estes this year and
122'8" at St. Louis last year. The St. Louis one is on
my YouTube page and the Estes Park one is on Dan Williams
page (Wyomann). Maybe these help explain better what I'm
trying to say. Great discussion!

Oh, and Sully, there's a difference between your pic and
Craig's. Craig is reaching further back, catching it
sooner, creating a bigger, sweeping orbit, and he's back
and up on his toes, ready to crush the hammer back around.
Throw in the fact Craig has long hair there, and well,
you get the point.   

Thanks for the vid posts, too, sir.

watched the vids, amazing how fast you (Dan) get around to catch the hammer.. going to play with a couple things during practice tomorrow. thanks errbody

lol jeff.. once you get use to 120 degrees, anything under 70 and you put a hoodie/sweatshirt on..

Sean Betz wrote: ...Bruce Aitken attacks his second wind.   In my opinion, he is the best ever.  Most consistent over the longest time.

Interesting, the St Louis vid showed that Dan has a very distinct catch point and pronounced pull from the pivot bottom.

To hijack, if I may. Craiger, how can you explain the look you had going on back then?