Deltoid Soreness from Standing OHP

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   I've traditionally done bench and incline (I should mention that I'm 47), but in the past year I've started doing standing overhead presses with both barbell and dumbells. Lately I've noticed that on my standing presses with the barbell as I'm starting to go up in weights, I'm experiencing some lingering soreness towards the front of my right deltoid. Is this normal, or do I need to check my form or perhaps stick to OHP with dumbells or incline as my vertical press of choice? Bench press is still going ok though. Any input is appreciated. Thanks.

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Kyle Fuller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 6/10/10 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 151	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kyle Fuller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Deltoid Soreness from Standing OHP Posted: 12/07/11 at 12:45am
	I've traditionally done bench and incline (I should mention that I'm 47), but in the past year I've started doing standing overhead presses with both barbell and dumbells. Lately I've noticed that on my standing presses with the barbell as I'm starting to go up in weights, I'm experiencing some lingering soreness towards the front of my right deltoid. Is this normal, or do I need to check my form or perhaps stick to OHP with dumbells or incline as my vertical press of choice? Bench press is still going ok though. Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
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MAT$O Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Postaholic World Champ - '12 Joined: 7/19/10 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1242	Post Options Post Reply Quote MAT$O Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/08/11 at 1:10am
	Kyle- This could be caused from lots of things I would say most probably it is a form issue. Take a video if you can and see if we can help. If not don't go to wide with your hands. Just about shoulder width and at the bottom squeeze in tight and have your lats carry the weight. This should take some pressure off the shoulders. Hope that helps
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Duncan McCallum Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 12/07/07 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7442	Post Options Post Reply Quote Duncan McCallum Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/08/11 at 7:20am
	Come to practice. We'll lift and get some video of your formz.
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Kyle Fuller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 6/10/10 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 151	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kyle Fuller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/08/11 at 8:25am
	Thanks Matt. I'll take a video when I lift this evening. Duncan, when/where is the next practice?
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Duncan McCallum Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 12/07/07 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7442	Post Options Post Reply Quote Duncan McCallum Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/08/11 at 8:44am
	Anytime after 1400. You pick the day. Gonna drag Cannon out there this weekend.
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Kyle Fuller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 6/10/10 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 151	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kyle Fuller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/08/11 at 9:25am
	Sunday at 1400 or 1500 works for me.
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Kyle Fuller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 6/10/10 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 151	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kyle Fuller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/12/11 at 9:45am
	Here's a video from part of my workout from last Thursday. It's my first attempt at any video compilation - but hope to be doing more of these now that I've learned how. Thanks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USa1u-WFpso
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Kyle Fuller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 6/10/10 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 151	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kyle Fuller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/12/11 at 9:47am
	Here's a video from part of my workout from last Thursday. It's my first attempt at any video compilation - but hope to be doing more of these now that I've learned how. Thanks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USa1u-WFpso
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Sara Fleming Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 12/12/11 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sara Fleming Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 12/12/11 at 12:51pm
	Kyle, I'm a USA Weightlifting coach so I have a bit of advice for your overhead press. Your finish position should have your upper arm in line with your ear such that the weight is centered over the middle to back of your head. Your press was ending almost in front of your face. When this happens, there is a lot of stress placed on your shoulders to hold that weight out in front. When you finish the press, make sure your elbows are locked out and you push your head through your arms such that the bar is over the top of your head. Make sure you hips are tucked under as well to keep from straining the low back. Your press should have the same finish position as the jerk on the clean and jerk in this video. (I apologize, its the only side view I can find as the moment.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAlO6y35d58&feature=plcp&context=C2597eUDOEgsToPDskLrTRJviaEUX4RDlH38NI1F Sara

Kyle Fuller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 6/10/10 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 151	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kyle Fuller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/13/11 at 12:41am
	Thanks for your help Sara. I see what you mean regarding the finishing position. I really appreciate it.
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mike landrich Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 4/12/09 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 306	Post Options Post Reply Quote mike landrich Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 12/13/11 at 10:26am
	A good way to get the weight far enough back at lockout is to do a combination press and overhead squat. Use a really light weight (start with just the bar), press the bar overhead and try to squat down (deep ATG squat). If you are too far forward with the bar, you will know instantly, as you lose your balance.
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stormer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 4/27/10 Status: Offline Points: 269	Post Options Post Reply Quote stormer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/17/11 at 11:10pm
	I would say try and keep more upright as your torso is flexed and putting your lower back in a weak position also it looks like your using legs to start the movement so lose the legs and lower the weight and go for more speed. st

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Wayne Hill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postaholic Joined: 8/29/04 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2935	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wayne Hill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/18/11 at 4:31am
	I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the possibility of a shoulder impingement, which is what kept me from OHP for over a year a bunch of years ago. This isn't a pain in the deltoid per se, but can sure feel like it. Nothing seemed to work, and certainly not the usual rotator cuff exercises (which I easily did with perfect form using weights well above the levels recommended for those exercises). A PT/powerlifter told me to stretch my delts, which ultimately led me to the "doorknob stretch", in which I grab a doorknob (or other fixed object of about the right height) with both hands behind my back and lean away. This felt just great, implying I was onto something. After doing this whenever I thought of it (many times a day) for a few days, the impingement was gone for good.
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Lance Creed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 9/19/11 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 658	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lance Creed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/18/11 at 2:27pm
	The advice about finishing position helped me with my shoulder pain on OHP a lot today. I paid attention to the finish and I felt great!
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