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    Posted: 2/20/10 at 12:56pm

I practice with this mountain with feet  (Dale Gehman) and work hard at doing what he says and mimic his movements.  However last season I threw at 150 pounds which meant the 56# for distance and height was over a third of my weight.  I am bit heavier and stronger (in the gym anyways) but my question is this:

What adaptations have you lighter guys developed that has produced better for you in the games?

Dave Carl had a nifty spin for the Heavy WFD that comes to mind.

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I did not change anything I just got better at it so practice practice practice. I think thats it any how... watch alot of youtube. and go to every clinc become a student of the games 

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Or just eat more and get into a real class!!!

Kidding, JStone continues to pwn me at all events.  Except Golden Corral.

See if you can find some M. Howe vids?  Or even that JStone fella...

Practice practice practice.  As a wee fella you do not enjoy the gift of extra midrift to help counter the weights...you have to be a technical thrower.  Quick feet.  Hitting positions and feeling the physics of the throw.  I hate to be a swanger, but watch some John Irvin or the Super Burchett Brothers; both Johnny and Nate (haven't met Isaac) are lighter heavies, but their technique is fundamentally sound.  They make the most with what they have.

Think of it in terms of your lifting...you have to maximize every fiber you have to pull the heavy weight.  Same for throwing.  You must maximize the pressure/force/whatever (physics majors!) to the weight at the precise moment.  Drills drills drills...get a better feel.

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I agree with Jstone and Duncan. It all comes down to technique.
Being lighter makes it that more important to have great technique.
Clearly being as strong and explosive as you can be is important, but
IMO for us lighter guys, technique always wins out. If your technique is
not on point, all that strength/power is moot point. Videos, drills and
great training partners are crucial to have better technique.
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During the 2009 North/South, I sat and watched the Burchett boys do some serious damage and neither one of them could have weighed 190 and they were putting some hurt on many a heavier competitor.

I was blown away. Really made me re-think a lot of things, especially about the importance of technique.
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Jason,

I'm a pee-wee as well as being old.

#1 stay away from Dale--he's a bad influence on your technique if not your morals

Actually Dale is smooth as silk sometimes and you can see the benefit of a lot of focus on technique, plus I think Dale breaks things down well for new throwers when he's helping them out.  First thing I'd steal from Dale is his caber technique.  Pick it cleanly, make sure its lifted and you carry it high and the caber is settled before you take your first step.  Being smaller, its harder for us to horse a bad position with a caber.

WFD--Dave Carl and Dale both have very good first casts which lead to good first spins.  Some bigger and stronger guys can horse it again if their first spin is a bit off--not for us little guys--a bad placement and cast on the first spin spells disaster for the second.  With a 56# weight--you have to be at the right spot after your first spin or that mutha is gonna take you where it wants to take you. I just started spinning drills after knee rehab--trust me--nail the first spin and half the cast of the second is taken care of.

I know this sounds crazy--but for WOB, I've learned to throw with either hand.  I practice with each.  Sometimes by the time we get to WOB, my right arm and shoulder has turned to rubber (insert old, out-of-shape-joke here) But working WOB with either hand has helped me stay in longer.

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Is it legal to wear a weighted vest?  20 pounds or so? 

 

editor's note:  Detroit Pete has arms like tree trunks and shoulders the size of Idaho!

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Originally posted by Jason Cherry Jason Cherry wrote:

Is it legal to wear a weighted vest?  20 pounds
or so? 


 


editor's note:  Detroit Pete has arms like tree trunks and shoulders the
size of Idaho!



Ha! Thanks Jason--I think Right now I'm tipping the scales at 194--
I'm friggin HUUUUGE. I'm finding it hard to waddle out and throw a few
stones.

For us pee-wees it is ALL about technique. My advice is drill drill drill.
Use You Tube as your personal clinic. Shoot some video of your
technique and post it here and let the guys give you pointers. Good
technique also prevents injury. I think us little guys might be more prone
to injuries when we slip on technique and try to muscle our throws. Every
chance I get I bug the guys I throw with about what the heck I'm doing
wrong. Gotta like a sport where your competitors want you to be better.

Just please--don't ask me about sheaf technique! Sheaf hate me.
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