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    Posted: 11/07/06 at 2:27pm

o.k., whats your best STANDING 56# WOB.  I am interested to know your best lift vs lifetime pull in WOB:

List your best ever Deadlift:

Best Power Clean:

Best Snatch:

and Finally Best ever STANDING WOB pull:

Lets see how it shakes out.

 

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Remember that post that Karl Dodge put on here regarding clean/wfh correlations? I know I've still got that somewhere. What I do remember is that I exceeded all his lifting targets relative to throw height, but I still didn't make the height. I think there's an issue of "talent" that wasn't taken into account by Dodge's analysis.
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List your best ever Deadlift: 465lbs (18 months ago, real max would probably be about 550lbs, never do them)

Best Power Clean: 352lbs

Best Power Snatch: 242lbs

and Finally Best ever STANDING WOB pull: 13 feet (done when Clean was 325lbs and snatch 238lbs)



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Kearney is right. I remember those discussions.

I can respect people that like dead-lifts. You do what you love. I never did a single deadlift. I never saw much use for it with the heavy events. When your training time is limited there's other more useful things to do.

But hey if you love it then rip it!

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I'm curious about this as well so I'll help by adding in my marks with hopes of continuing this thread.

Best ever Deadlift: 462

Best Power Clean: 260

Best Snatch: 185

Best ever STANDING WOB pull: 12'6"

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All right here we go – Part II of last year’s discussion about certain lifts now applied to the success of a certain event. Very creative Roy, whish I thought of this last year. This will be interesting if there is any kind of correlation.

 

I’ll play:

 

My best WOB standing was this year at 16’ but I think on that day I could have gone 16’ 6” if I hadn’t had Mike P. cranking it 17’6”. By the way I did have my shirt on.

 

My best Clean at that time was like 140K for 6 reps (I don’t do singles – lowest rep count is 3’s continuous)

Best lifetime  – like it matters is 165k – that’s all I needed in 1995

 

Don’t wide grip snatch but have close griped with hands together - 110k for 3’s in 1995

 

Deadlifts – is that when you pick up something dead and bury it?

 

All lifts are from a raised platform where the weights are pulled from bellow your feet with out stopping between reps.

 

Roy, do you ever rip lips with a fly rod? Heard John Walker hits them pretty hard these days.

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Haven't used the fly rod yet......but a good friend of mine does.  I'll have to indulge next year on that one.

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Originally posted by Steve D Steve D wrote:

Deadlifts – is that when you pick up something dead and bury it?

 

Very, and I mean Very well said....

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Originally posted by big MAC big MAC wrote:

List your best ever Deadlift: 465lbs (18 months ago, real max would probably be about 550lbs, never do them)

Best Power Clean: 352lbs

Best Power Snatch: 242lbs

and Finally Best ever STANDING WOB pull: 13 feet (done when Clean was 325lbs and snatch 238lbs)

Learn the double knee bend and you are over 16' in 3 comps or less.  Paul Ferency is THE legend of this technique.

Paul, send him the video.........

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List your best ever Deadlift: 685lbs. -full raw DL

Best Power Clean: 365lbs.

Best Snatch: 245lbs. close grip, 260lbs. clean grip

and Finally Best ever STANDING WOB pull: 17'-6"-cranking for 18'

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Originally posted by Roy Bogue Roy Bogue wrote:

Originally posted by big MAC big MAC wrote:

List your best ever Deadlift: 465lbs (18 months ago, real max would probably be about 550lbs, never do them)

Best Power Clean: 352lbs

Best Power Snatch: 242lbs

and Finally Best ever STANDING WOB pull: 13 feet (done when Clean was 325lbs and snatch 238lbs)

Learn the double knee bend and you are over 16' in 3 comps or less.  Paul Ferency is THE legend of this technique.

Paul, send him the video.........

 

Found it on Ryans site, the 17'7. Thanks for the vote of confidence. I'll likey be doing a WOB in 2 weeks, we'll see what happens.

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Best deadlift - 650
Best clean - 255lbs
Best snatch - 185lbs
Best standing WOB - 14' in training (13'6" in competition)

5'8" and 245lbs.




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Best deadlift: 775 (1991)

Best Power Clean: 405  (1991)

Best Power Snatch: 295 (1991)

Best WOB with 56#: 12'   (2005)

I've done snatches twice since 1991 and haven't deadlifted since 2000. So now they would be pitiful.

Last year I did power cleans in only 5 workouts. My best efort was 315 for 2.

 

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wob stand 15.7......clean 363 (2005).....wide snatch 252 (2004)....dead 500 (2005).....
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Me am weak. DL 485 Hang Clean 315 Snatch 225 WOB 17'3"

I think Steve D's onto something there - it's less about how much weight you can do, more about how fast you can lift it.
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WOB 13'

DL 495

snatch and clean I dont do them whereas, I wasn't properly trained in the art of them. I ask KP but he decline to show me. Oh well, I will just get by on the field with my good looks and humor

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Best Dead: 385
Best Clean: 245
Best Snatch: 165
Best WoB: 13'

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Dead- 655 raw in competition @252lbs (Adel, GA 1999),Clean- 320 (2000), Hang Clean -300 (2005),Power Snatch-220 (When needed, if ever), Best WOB 15ft @ 220lbs

Best WOB performances (and most other events) are always after a week of CG Hang Snatches with 65-85lbs for sets of 5 and some bounding/jumps and NOTHING else. 

Improving technique is the only thing that ever really made a difference in the WOB or other events for me.  I started the games in 2000 and only compete in 5-8 each year.  I have gotten weaker and lighter every year  and have only seen improvements because of attention to technique (which is still not too good). I, and many others I think, would rather be ridiculously strong and throw well.  But, it has never worked.  The more I lift, the slower I move and recover.  IMO durability and the ability to recover makes the better athlete in the end.  That's why I throw best after almost no training (no durabilty or recovery ability). 

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dl 505

clean225

snatch165

wob11.6

5.9 187

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5'6" 200lbs.

Best DL - 450 (when I was young and stupid)  within the past year like 410.

Clean - 190

Snatch - 145

WOB - 11ft, but I hit the bar @ 12 and I think I should get to throw from on top of a box or something.

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Pure strength is fine. Pure speed is fine. However, one without the other only gets you so far. I'm trying to increase both as much as possible. Also I'm not forgeting technique. That's what helps you exploit both.  

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Dead: 7ish

Clean: n/a

Snatch: n/a

Standing WOB: 16'9"

 

 

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735, 16'9"

Snatch and clean, ha ha ha ha ha

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6-1..235lbs
dead-605lbs(powerlifting contest 1998)
      525 X 3 reps (2/2006)
clean-295lbs(2005)
snatch??
standing wob-56lb 14-9(9/2005)
               42   18-3(2006)
once I get wheels back(1/2007) will embark on dead's and fronts-to get back      
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Originally posted by dWood dWood wrote:

will embark on dead's and fronts-to get back      

 

Interesting.  Dan brings the front squat into the equation....

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Originally posted by C. Smith C. Smith wrote:

Originally posted by dWood dWood wrote:

will embark on dead's and fronts-to get back      

 

Interesting.  Dan brings the front squat into the equation....

I was going to list it, but figured it would muddy the waters.  I wanted to compare pulls.

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David - if you really cannot deadlift 505 then I will poop right on my own pillow...

best dead: 505 - probably can do more though with 3 training sessions.

best hang clean with straps: 290

best hang snatch: 205

best pull with a full 160 gram Ultimate frisbee disc: roughly 250 feet

best wob: 17'6

 

 

 

 

 

15'6 from the stand.



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then 15' 6" it is,  read the thread dork!
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Topic: Deadlift or Olympic lift for (hmmm...)WOB?

...both?

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