lookie what I got fer Christmas!

Who the hell squats is ugly sissy bowling shoes??? (He,he,he)

Ivan Chakarov, no-no-no with 270 kg:

http://www6.mailordercentral.com/ironmind/images/PHICTRF.JPG

-Wayne

The heel looks raised. Is that how they help you?  What else does it do for you?

I heard about the big push press Will.  How about some video of that?  Show us those shoes in action brother.  We need more video on Craig's site. 

big MAC,

That makes sense. Thanks.  BTW,  I love the avatar!

 

OK, I am now interested. Where did you get your shoes?

Thanks Tim.

 

Also, try these places

 

www.dynamic-eleiko.com

www.vsathletics.com search for VS weightlifting shoes. The are very affordable and great value for money. Other than that, you can't go wrong with Adidas.

well...I was doin front squats - 335 lbs...

Nothing feels better than a good lifting shoe., I had a pair that mysteriously dissapeared when I left them at a gym. now I'm stuck with Chuck Taylors

so is that to say that MY shiny new shoes produce a posture that does not put me in an advantageous position for throwing and also produces higher shear forces on my tendons and ligaments? Or were you referring to another kind of shoe?

Will...these are AWESOME shoes for lifting especially if you
have in-flexible calves or tight achilles tendons...however....

IF you have EXTREMELY long femurs ...any shoe with a Big
heel is going to shift the weight forward ....most good throwers
are tall and have LONG femurs. [   7   ] ..I would caution them
against MORE loading on the tendons and ligaments ...the big
advantage to a Safety Squat bar is that you can squat with your
knee's | right over your ankles...perpindicular...to the floor...food
for thought ...Maybe a crumb ?

p.s. Adidas is my favorite brand and our school colors are Blue
and white

Me too!!! 6'3" with 30" inseam.  You must be Irish.

I'm not sure of any athletic movement you can do with your shins perpendicular to the ground (knees directly over your ankles).  Just try a vertical jump like this without letting your shins go forward, you're going nowhere let alone throwing anything ...

 

O.K. guys I'll bite...would you want to handle 1,000 lbs. on your
shoulders with your heels off the ground and your knee's out
over your toes ?

I'll "assume" the answer is no...!

We like to OVERLOAD the rear -chain...hams...glutes with
eccentric loads that high or HIGHER...the way to do this safely
is witrh an anti-burst ball that handles DYNAMIC loads in
excess of 2,000 lbs. This is an inprovement on box squatting
and   is the KEY to reversibilty and what I like to call LIMIT
strength...what amount can you handle going down and
REVERSE the direction upwards.

Yes the knees do bend and go out over the feet in any athletic
movement however you should make a resvervation with an
ortho IF your not using a safety squat bar and try this with
conventional technique...!

Coach, I'm not understanding how bouncing of the ball is helping your reversibility and/or limit strength.  The harder you come down on the ball the faster and higher you'll bounce back up but how is that working you any harder. 

As a side note, I don't think anyone is handling 1,000 lbs in the manner you're speaking of.  Will said only 335 (no offense Will).  Plus if you calculate the body weight of some of these throwers plus the shear forces throwing produces I'll bet front squating with heels is actually easier on their knees than throwing.  There's gotta be a ton of force going through a 300 lbs shot putter's power leg as they glide to the trig.  I am on the boat with you about not letting your knees go past your toes "excessively" but what Will and Kurt and everyone else is doing can't be much more dangerous than trying to handle a load that you can't even lift yourself with out the aid of handles to hold on to and a ball to bounce off of.

P.S.  I've learned from past experiences that tone of voice does not translate well via the forums so let me just say that I'm not bashing you or your ideas but am instead discussing i.e. "debating" some training theorys.  So I hope the above reads like that.

Edited by Tim Pinkerton